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[FEDERALIST] The Facts Behind The Trump Tower Meeting Are Incriminating, But Not For Trump

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  1. Aceshigh7

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    Hilarious that leftists actually mention the Trump Tower meeting when I ask for a single shred of proof of collusion. It's sad that an unsolicited meeting obtained on false pretenses is all they can hang their hat and hopes on after nearly two years of investigations. I've been saying for a long time that there were too many red-flags and never-Trump connections with this Russian lawyer for this to not be a set-up.

    Many of y'all are going to need some serious therapy when the Mueller investigation finally comes to an end. Sure, there will be some more show indictments for matters having nothing to do with collusion. But "russiagate" will end up a complete dry hole for you guys.

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/30/facts-behind-trump-tower-meeting-incriminating-not-trump/

    The Facts Behind The Trump Tower Meeting Are Incriminating, But Not For Trump
    The real colluders with Russia are the Democrats, intelligence agencies, and corporate media. The facts about the Trump Tower meeting only reinforce that.

    JULY 30, 2018

    According to “sources with knowledge” talking to CNN—whatever that means—Michael Cohen is prepared to tell Special Counsel Robert Mueller that Donald Trump knew in advance about the June 9, 2016 Trump Tower meeting between Don Jr. and Russians. The president still denies knowing about that meeting beforehand.

    Don Jr. was emailed by a British music promoter, Rob Goldstone, who promised that the Russian “crown prosecutor” had information that would “incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia.” When the meeting took place, in walked two Russian nationals, Rinat Akhmetshin and Natalia Veselnitskaya, who proceeded to talk to Don Jr., Jared Kushner, and others about how Americans could once again adopt Russian children, if only the Magnitsky Act were repealed. Eyes surely rolled, and the meeting was ended. Kushner even messaged his assistant to try to come up with an excuse to leave the meeting early.

    For those who belong to the religious cult of Trump-Russia collusion, this meeting is prima facie evidence of the Trump campaign colluding with Russia to rig the 2016 election. One of the sacraments of this cult is that its adherents wake up every morning and hope that on this day, just maybe, Trump will finally be done away with. CNN is of course central to this practice.

    CNN’s Chris Cillizza called the anonymously sourced report a “collusion bombshell,” and said it was maybe the “most important [event] of Donald Trump’s presidency.” One wonders how many times CNN and its employees have said similar things, only to see their hopes dashed?

    The truth is that it doesn’t matter whether Trump knew of this meeting or not, or whether Mueller can ever prove that he did. Don Jr. and his associates did nothing wrong in setting up this meeting. But the events surrounding the meeting are damning for the intelligence agencies, the media, and the Democrat Party.

    This Was Not About the DNC Hacked Emails
    At the time of this meeting, the public did not know that Democratic National Committee emails had been stolen. Only the DNC and the Clinton campaign knew that. On June 9, 2016, everyone in conservative-ville, including Don Jr., was still hoping to discover the 30,000 emails that Hillary Clinton deleted from the home-brew server she used while secretary of state.

    Clinton said these emails were personal, but many suspected that they contained evidence of Clinton running a quid pro quo operation while secretary of state: The U.S. government does a foreign country a favor, and in return that foreign government pays Slick Willy half a million for a speech, or donates millions to the Clinton Foundation.

    Wasn’t it terrible that Don Jr. met with Russians? Despite what Sen. Marco Rubio and David French might think, no campaign in American history would pass up the opportunity of receiving dirt on their opponents. If a foreign government has dirt, you especially need to examine the dirt, because if your opponent is elected that dirt could be used to leverage U.S. policy decisions.

    Keep in mind that during this time nobody knew that Russia had interfered in anything, aside from the regular deluge of phishing emails common to both Russian and Chinese hackers that were directed at both Democrats and Republicans. Yes, it would be grossly inappropriate to change American policy in return for receiving the dirt, and you shouldn’t send your son or close associates to listen to the potential dirt, but you do look into it. That’s just how it works.

    Instead of dirt, Don Jr. was treated to a diatribe about adoptions and the Magnitsky Act. Here is where things get very interesting. The Magnitsky Act is a law meant to crack down on Russian black money that human rights violators have parked overseas. The act was named after Sergei Magnitsky, a Russian lawyer who revealed a Kremlin-run tax fraud and was later beaten to death in Russian prison. In a cruel retaliation for the Magnitsky Act, Vladimir Putin banned U.S. parents from adopting Russian children.

    Democratic Operatives Were Working For the Kremlin

    Somebody colluded with Russia, and it wasn’t Donald Trump. Veselnitskaya and Akhmetshin were working to repeal the Magnitsky Act for the Kremlin with none other than Fusion GPS, the same opposition research firm the DNC and Clinton campaign had hired in April 2016 to dig up—or create—ties between Trump and Russia.

    Fusion’s Glenn Simpson met with Veselnitskaya and Akhmetshin both before and after that Trump Tower meeting. Simpson told Congress he had no idea that the two Russians were meeting with the Trump team, but Fusion GPS even provided the materials and handouts for the meeting in question.

    Three days after the June 9 Trump Tower meeting, the public learned the DNC had been breached. Around this same time, Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steele, a former British spook, specifically to tie Trump to Russia. Steele oversaw the creation of the still-unverified and salacious “dossier.” But Steele farmed out the responsibility for the dossier to Edward Baumgartner, a British national with ties to the Kremlin, who used Russians as sources who were likely current and former Russian intelligence officials.

    Former CIA Director John Brennan took that dossier, full of what is likely Russian disinformation straight from the Kremlin, and shopped it around to Congress. Brennan also pushed the FBI to investigate Trump. The FBI’s Peter Strzok opened an investigation based on this Russian disinformation.

    Former top Department of Justice official Bruce Ohr’s wife, Nellie, worked at Fusion GPS, another avenue by which Fusion laundered its weaponized Russian disinformation into the upper echelons of the U.S. government. James Comey’s FBI violated the spirit and the letter of the lawand spied on a former member of Trump’s campaign—Carter Page—using the unverified dossier. Once the warrant to spy on Page was secured, the “two-hop rule” allowed American intelligence officials to delve into much if not all of the Trump campaign’s communications.

    Most important to team Clinton, Steele and Simpson vociferously shopped the dossier to American journalists, which our intelligence agencies suspiciously ignored,so stories would publish before the election about Trump’s nefarious ties to Russia. Because these stories said the American government was investigating Trump, they lent the Clinton campaign’s talking points on Trump and Russia—meant to distract from the treatment of Bernie Sanders and Clinton’s integrity issues—legitimacy. If that isn’t election interference, then what is?
     
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  2. adoo

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    it'd take a very ignorant person to believe this.

    Acehigh7, the self-proclaimed MBAer, from the now-defunct Trump University, that is, fits this requirement like a glove !
     
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    Biased Fake News source. Next...
     
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    Did you say the same about the Federalist article that painted Ocasio-Cortez in a positive light? It’s from the same source and is infinitely kinder to her than I would be.

    If I want biased fake news I’ll turn on CNN. That fact does not prevent many of you from posting their moronic drivel in this forum though.
     
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    Federalist is a garbage right-wing website - not a legitimate source of news.
     
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    What a joke. Are people this stupid?
     
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    Yes, liberals are this stupid. Glad we can finally agree
     
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    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    WHOOPS.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php...ould-be-the-left’s-donald-trump.292625/page-2
     
  10. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    I'm not the puppet! You're the puppet!
     
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    Aceshigh7 is definitely high as a kite. Needs to cut back on the pot and the Iron Maiden.
     
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    NO PUPPET
     
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    Lol @ a cuckservative starting a thread here. Get out of here, racist! Blue wave taking over. Somebody give this comrade two scoops with some Russian dressing. Stormy!
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    So this article is claiming that a career BRITISH spy who specializes in Russian intellegence gathering his entire career somehow got dupped into being feed information by Putin and hence the Dossier is pro Putin propaganda.

    So the career spy is a dimwit but the internet pundits are experts in Russian intellegence gathering.

    Of course someone who thinks an MBA makes you an expert in macroeconomics would be dimwitted enough to believe this.
     
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  17. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
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    Fair is foul and foul is fair?

    Federalist is blatant propaganda and lies. CNN at least reports the facts.
     
  18. Os Trigonum

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    you do know the difference between opinion and news, yes?
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
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    You can't hide under, "ok it's to lie and spread propaganda because these are just opinion pieces" - you practically work for them

    The Federalist also aggregates criminal activity by blacks - and has a black tag. I mean, what kind of organization does that?
     
  20. Os Trigonum

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    are you talking about The Federalist or The Federalist Society? those are two separate things
     

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