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ESPN anchor Jemele Hill called President Donald Trump a white supremacist.

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  1. fchowd0311

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    But in this example, the 'new black panther party' have expressed their disdain for Obama while self-labeled white supremacists express their approval of Trump.

    We need to remove ourselves from whether a comment is outrageous and instead should value whether the comment has accuracy. Jamele Hill's statement has some accuracy behind it.
     
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    Maybe Trump is talking out of both sides of his mouth?

    Let's look at the actions Trump has taken that give white supremacist good wood:
    • Muslim travel ban
    • Deporting illegal aliens who are not criminals
    • Giving white supremacists WH executive positions (Bannon, Miller, Flynn)
    • Creating a Voter-Fraud Commission which will likely target minority voters
     
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    With regard to LEO issues in this country All Lives Matter. Being specific is racist. Terrible name because I don't think they mean it.
     
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    I'm sure it's perfectly normal for the Senate to unanimously pass a resolution calling on a non-white supremacist to publicly denounce white supremacists. I bet that happens all the time.
     
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    First you would have to open your eyes.
     
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    So much snowflakeness in here, makes me giggle
     
  8. ipaman

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    Muslim travel ban - Complete lie. It was travel ban from 7 high risk countries identified by Obama team. The largest Muslim countries in the world received no such "ban." And it wasn't a ban either, technically extreme vetting for those risk countries. Please stop lying if you want me to take you seriously .

    Deporting illegal aliens who are not criminals - o_O interesting logic you got there

    Giving white supremacists WH executive positions - Prove those folks (who i don't like mind you) are what you say they are. I want to see real evidence of membership.

    Creating a Voter-Fraud Commission which will likely target minority voters - Another lie. Will target fraudulent voters and voting practices which is a great thing because as citizens our power comes from our vote. That power should be protected not marginalized. Has nothing to do with race or ethnicity.
     
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    If you can't understand, you are part of the problem. This is like taking Black Lives Matter phrase and pretending it says Black Lives Matter Most. Why does somebody who takes a stance against something have to take up the stance for every single disadvantaged group in history?

    What she said was incredibly insulting of Donald Trump, but not an unreasonable opinion.
     
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    How times change, not that long ago deporting illegal aliens regardless of whether they were criminals or not was a popular position held by both parties.
     
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    Sounds like Trump. OMG... you know what this means?!?!? Clinton was a white supremacists!!! Somebody quick alert Jemele, she's got more tweeting to do!!

    Oh no.... Obama too



    what's happening jemele!! apparently we're surrounding by whites and black leaders who are all white supremacists!!
     
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    They don't announce
    Exactly, because everything about certain white nationalism is misaligned. They fabricate whatever it takes to live with themselves to the point that many are indeed sociopaths.
     
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    I mean, it's obvious that those who started the BLM nonsense were in fact racists and it's obvious why an identitarian movement like that would attract other racists, but obviously not all of them are that way. The real unfortunate thing though is that the popularization of that identitarian movement helped other identitarian groups gain popularity as a response to their actions. You wouldn't have had a Charlottesville without the many years of BLM nonsense setting the stage for it and helping recruiting for white nationalist groups.

    In many ways you can say that the current political climate was caused largely due to a black kid attacking a Hispanic man and getting shot along with a black man attacking a white cop and getting shot. Without those 2 incidents, you probably don't have a BLM and you don't have a Charlottesville incident. Hell you probably don't have Donald Trump as president without those things either.

    No matter what excuses people want to make for BLM, one thing is certain, its existence has been extremely negative for the country and any good they might have possibly done was greatly overshadowed by the harm they've caused.
     
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    i disagree, good cause (LEOs out of control in this country, shades of a police state at times) but terrible racists name and leadership at a certain level.
     
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    Fry 'em like bacon.
     
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    done.

    so whats your example again of 'voters coddling white supremacists at Trump's rallies.' ?
     
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    Except that isn't true, and isn't subjective and nobody said it. ESPN had multiple employees who were critical of Obama (insulting really), but didn't get fired for it.
     
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    The white police who shot blacks for sport started BLM. So we agree for once!
     
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    How the times change indeed...

     
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    The problem with it being a "good cause" is that it's a false narrative. If their narrative was accurate, then sure, they'd have a legit cause, but it's not accurate. Are there ******* cops out there who treat people poorly? Sure, but the "LEOs are out of control" narrative is a false one.....and that's not even why the group was started. It all started back with Trayvon Martin, not Micheal Brown. The "movement" was started to get "justice" for a problem child who attacked the wrong person and ended up dead. That's not a legitimate cause. They then moved on to try and get "justice" for Micheal Brown who robbed a store and then attacked a cop and got shot....again not a legitimate cause.

    They push the narrative that black men are being hunted in the streets by white people and that no one cares.....while the reality is that plenty of people care even if it's an outright lie.
     

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