Duncan & Hollinger Top 10 Draft Rankings & Discussion

Interesting how Miller is 4th on both their boards with different prospects at 3.

 

Interesting list. Jarace at 11/12? Now I think that's crazy, but alright.

 

And my man Lively is moving even further up....

DD

 

I think I'm on the Amen train now. Other than Scoot or Wemby he has the most superstar potential and that's all I care about. The body, athleticism, playmaking, and defense will all translate 100%. Needs to add those Ja-esque floaters and leaders to his arsenal on top of shooting but can be special if he does. Danny Chau from the Ringer called him Ricky Rubio in Shawn Marion's body. It's just a shame he wasted 2 years of his life in a YMCA but the upside is enough for me to pick him over what we have left.

 

Hollinger’s ratings always overvalue youth. Duncan has actual scouting skills that are rare amongst the eye test guys. You can trust what he says.

 

I think I've begrudgingly accepted Amen as the pick. The bust potential is high and his shot looks broken but he would work well next to Jalen as a big PG if he pans out.

 

Ben Simmons was an all nba 3rd team player in his 4th year and one if the best defenders in the NBA. Reggie Miller made all NBA 3rd twice in his whole career and he's considered top 75 all time. The archetype is not hopeless. Ben's mental issues are an anomaly the level of Derrick Rose's injuries and shouldn't factor into the assessment of any other prospect. Amen seems like a grounded, rational person so I don't see how he could end up like Ben.

 

Ben Simmons also developed some kind of mental issue and a phobia of shooting. It seems like Amen likes to fire away even if the shot is jacked.

 

Yes - this.

If Ben Simmons had slightly more of an 'attack the rim' mentality, there would be no debate about him being a perennial all-star.

 

My final Top 4 Mock (06/21/23)

#1 Wemby
#2 Scoot
#3 Amen
#4 Brandon Miller

But I'm a fan of Houston obtaining any or all of Cam Whitmore, Jarace, Lively

 

I think amen has a legit chance to go 3 , but I’m also so scared of him on the rockets . Crazy high potential, pretty far away

 

I certainly didn't want him! I don't like guys who can't shoot in a sport where shooting is quite important.

Just saying, his skill level wasn't questionable, just his brain. If Amen is a shorter, more aggressive version - how bad would that be?

 

I think the chance that Miller falls to 4 is much higher than the chance Scoot does. Portland drafting Sharpe last year showed that 1.) they’re willing to take a high flier on a non-collegiate athlete based on upside alone; and 2.) they’re just giving Dame lip service at this point about trying to contend and rebuild at the same time. It also helped them that Sharpe “panned out”, or at least he has given his low expectations going in and media perceptions which are more highlight reel based than a deep dive into his analytical performance and long term potential.

Last year should teach us to be completely open to unexpected possibilities. All we know is that three players are being taken before we go.

 

On the other hand, there's a big difference between taking that kind of risk at #7 and doing it again a year later with pick #3. Plus, who knows what the hell Portland is doing?

That said, I too think there is a good chance we end up with Miller at #4.