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CP3 and James are the most talented backcourt in history.

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  1. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    LOL Cp3, Harden, AI, KD, Green are a dynasty

    Capela, Ariza/Ennis, Tucker will all be useless without elite playmakers feeding them
    and none of those are at Green's level
     
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    Awesome post, OP.
     
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    The 2 on 2 arguments are unfair to Harden and CP3
    Why?
    It removes their most powerful and overwhelming talent over Kobe/Fisher and Jordan/whoever.......ASSISTS

    Too many focus one points...maybe defensive edges
    But assist wise......kobe/Jordan don't come close in the assist department. ..... and I mean NOT CLOSE

    Rocket River
     
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    Great post! Reason to be thankful about Clutchfans - great posters
     
    #64 BigShasta, Nov 22, 2018
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    You are not bad yourself.
     
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    I’m glad most of you get it. All around talent has to include playmaking ability and assists.
    It’s James and CP’s biggest edge.
     
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    Harden top 5 all time maybe top 3 shooting guard in history. CP top 5 all time PG.

    Fischer and whomever you put with MJ are not even top 200 all time.

    CP or James would destroy Fischer or Paxton. MJ’s or Kobe’s talent gap is not enough to make up the difference even in your mythical 2 on 2 scenario, even at CP’s age.

    Maybe it is you who needs to put down the pipe.
     
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    Not to get into these debates but absolutely wanna say with regards to Curry vs. Durant, I think Curry is def the better player.
     
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    He maybe better than Kobe but still puts him nowhere in top 10, cuz I don’t think Kobe is top 10. Your comparison while injured is ridiculous with such a small sample size and the fact that Draymond Green has also been injured. The warriors are a bunch of little Bi&/es without Draymond. He brings their toughness and their defensive identity. They don’t win much when he is out. He maybe their most important player but not the best.. Not to mention Durant and Green got into a heated argument which is affecting their chemistry. Also their team this year is just worse than last year. They lost some key bench pieces so they can’t weather injuries as well.

    I agree Curry is easily the greatest shooter of all time, but that doesn’t make him one of the best players. Last year in playoffs Rockets attacked curry and were able to neutralize him, but we had no answer for Durant. Durant is a killer, probably the greatest offensive player in NBA history. The only thing stopping him from leading league in all time scoring will be injuries. There no defense for Durant, he will either make or miss his shot. There a reason every year the discussion for best player is between Durant or Lebron, and Curry no where near the conversation.
     
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    No way Durant is the best offensive player in NBA history. One of the greatest scorers, yea. Offensive players...there are at least 4 or 5 in the league today that have an argument over him
     
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    LOL, they would destroy fischer. fischer was a very good defender who would even give TMAC fits. James harden gets locked up by good defenders all the time, LOL.
     
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    Durant is the greatest offensive player who does not take many shots?!

    He also draws a lot less fouls than Harden, less FT opportunities for him to score.

    He rarely scores 50, has he ever scored 70 or attempted over 35 shots? Rarely.
     
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    Y’all are crazy. He’s already led then league in scoring 4 times in his career. No other current player is close. And the only reason he doesn’t do that anymore is cuz he’s playing on arguably one of the greatest teams of all time.

    He’s seven feet tall with guard like handles and huge wingspan. Plus he hasn’t unlimited range. The NBA hasn’t never seen a player like him, he’s on pace to be the all time scoring leader in nba history and he missed a whole season with injury..
     
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    He plays on a team that doesn’t need him to score 50 or 70. His usage rate is way lower. He could easily score that much if he wanted to. Led league in scoring 4 times already man.
     
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    yea well, what does the title say? greatest backcourt. it doesn't say greatest playmaking backcourt.
     
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    Yeah, but I recall him deferring to WB too. Also he blamed it on WB when he wasted a lead on the Warriors himself before he joined them in a b**** move. (Playoffs)

    He falls in love with the jump shot too much and seldomly drives.

    Now would be a good time to drop 50 or 60, GSW are free falling.
     
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    LOL it didn't say 2-man team either

    basketball is a team sport 5 vs 5 guys

    if there's a front-court there ought to be back-court
     
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    Yea, he's obviously one of the best players and greatest scorers ever. BUT, offensive also involves passing and running a team. 4-5 people was off but at least the three of Harden, Lebron, and Curry have more impact than him at that end, no?
     
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    Curry is debatable. Harden and Lebron and Probsbly Westbrook have more impact but that’s only cuz they are the entire teams offense. Their usage rate is through the roof. Hard to compare apples to oranges.
     
    #79 RHU525, Nov 22, 2018
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    but apparently cp3 is done tho according to cf's
     
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