Conservative Libertarian Mancow tries to prove Waterboarding isn't torture...

LScolaDominates · May 26, 2009

meh said:

My criteria is simple. It's dependent on possible outcomes. Right now, I see two outcomes.

1. We abolish torturing of terrorist suspects/war prisoners/etc. And results in muslims hating our guts.
2. We keep torturing such people. And results in muslims hating our guts.

In the end, these people will hate the US regardless of how we deal with this particular issue. Hence, a "non-issue".
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Ok, so something is a non-issue if it doesn't change the status quo viz. Muslims hating our guts. So I could come to your home, waterboard you, rape you with a broomstick, and strap you down while I play the latest Jonas Brothers CD on a loop and it would be no big deal because, despite my best efforts, Muslims will continue to hate our guts?

Major · May 26, 2009

meh said:

My criteria is simple. It's dependent on possible outcomes. Right now, I see two outcomes.

1. We abolish torturing of terrorist suspects/war prisoners/etc. And results in muslims hating our guts.
2. We keep torturing such people. And results in muslims hating our guts.

In the end, these people will hate the US regardless of how we deal with this particular issue. Hence, a "non-issue".
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Except that "Muslims" is not a single individual - they are billions of people with differing opinions. We know as fact that our torture in Iraq was the #1 recruiting tool for AlQaeda-in-Iraq, meaning that torture increased the amount of hatred amongst Muslims, and turned ordinary dislike into hatred, and hatred into violent hatred.

Your version is a gross simplification of the situation that ignores reality.

Fatty FatBastard · Jul 20, 2009

This sums it up nicely:

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