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Connecting the Trump-Russia Dots

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Mar 8, 2017.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    I actually agree with Trump that this isn't a good law. Constitutionally diplomacy is within the purview of the Executive and not the Legislative branch and agree that the Executive should have more power when it comes to negotiations. I think it's a bad idea for Congress to be taking the lead on foreign relations.

    That this wouldn't even be an issue if Trump had accepted the overwhelming evidence of Russian meddling in the last US election along with not downplaying Putin's awful human rights record and drawing a moral equivalency with the US.
     
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    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy

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  3. Amiga

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    In normal time, yes, would agree. We aren't in normal time (bold part), so disagree.
     
  4. Rashmon

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    Hmmm...
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    Is it just me?
     
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  5. JuanValdez

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    I don't agree. The Constitution did not put all the tools of diplomacy in the hands of the executive. A declaration of war is left to Congress, and it's part of the diplomacy toolkit. Sanctions are a lot like war; it's an act of foreign hostility. I think it is appropriate for Congress to assert some oversight. It doesn't even totally remove the lifting of sanctions from the toolkit. The president can ask Congress to lift it, and they probably would if it's part of a negotiation where we actually get something for it. Our Cuba sanctions are like this as well. When Obama normalized relations, he couldn't do it unilaterally because many of the sanctions were installed by Congress.
     
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    First... looks like Kellyanne has a new beautician... nice new hair. :) Second, watch her flinch when she here's Trump's lawyer...

     
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    The attacks on CNN are brilliant. I watched her argue with Chris cuomo and tell him that CNN doesn't cover things that they literally had covered throughout the night. When the clip plays on talk radio though she'll be labeled as defending trump and they all agree that CNN doesn't cover the topics.

    Trump says CNN doesn't report on the stock market anymore and his fans believe it. It's amazing.
     
  9. adoo

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    CNN and other outlets, except for Fox News, covers all the topics

    Trump is pissed that news outlets, unlike Fox News, don't do PR work for the POTUS,

    like the People's Daily does for China
    Perhaps, that's why the Trump admin is starting its state-sponsored media, TrumpTV on Facebook

    http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/kayleigh-mcenany-leaves-cnn-to-host-trump-tv/337426
     
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    I would disagree in that I don't think CNN and the other outlets cover MS13 and immigration crime stories as much as they could and sometimes not at all.
     
  11. Amiga

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    Just recently listened to npr about ms13 and how Houston Police chief sees them. Good stuff.
     
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  14. NewRoxFan

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    Interesting possible turn of what was just a silly story involving Trump, a fan that he retweeted (who turned out to be a "bot")...

    Here's the backstory: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php...-american-people.280663/page-14#post-11254428
    and here: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php...-american-people.280663/page-14#post-11255123

    This Trump fan may actually be a Russian bot
    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/07/this-trump-fan-may-actually-be-a-russian-bot/
     
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  15. dobro1229

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    To the "where's the crime" crowd.



     
  16. Rashmon

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    Politico: Trump Thanks Putin for Expelling U.S. Diplomats


    Tell me why this is a good thing, Trump supporters/foreign policy experts.
     
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  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Yea, why even have US Consulates in foreign countries. Who cares?
     
  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    You guys have spent this whole thread up in arms about their election interference

    So again who cares if they're so bad
     

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