[Chronicle Commentary]Dealing Yao or McGrady won't heal Rockets

WE would not be looking for a point guard who would become the third scoring option, FOR SURE we would be loking for one who could score but would be the floor general and be a great playmaker so that our stars can play their true positions. A third scorer is a different player also desperately needed by the team.

 

Alright Jerome, you're going to have to tell me how you are going to find either of these without moving T-Mac or Yao.

 

How dumb is that to even ask magic about trading Howard?

 

As much as I like Yao he's soft and can't create his own shot. You can trade Tracy if you want but you better get 5 guys who can shoot like Micheal Redd or your team is dead in the water.

The Suns have Nash and Stoudemire
The Mavericks have Dirk and a couple of borderline all stars.
The Spurs have Duncan and two great all stars.
The Heat won it all with a Hall of famer and a future hall of famer who still had something left.

It's crazy to believe that Yao Ming can win without a superstar next to him. At the risk of sounding redundant you need both T-Mac and Yao and it's the coach and general managers job to put the proper pieces around them.

 

I disagree that they wouldn’t get near or equal value. The NBA is all about the revenue and teams are always trying to increase largest revenue stream, which is gate receipts. There are two ways to increase gate receipts: winning or having a big name player. Tracy Mcgrady still has a big name. Many small market teams, that don’t have a shot at the finals, would easily trade a couple of good players for Tracy.

 

But ... how would you find a legit PG or third scorer by trading away T-Mac?

These things, barring a miracle, are basically unattainable at this point in the season. The Rockets stockpiled some guys on this team that were supposed to fill that role. Our best bet is to hope they (i.e. Mike, Steve, Bonzi, Luis) develop enough consistency. We're not going to make ourselves a better team this year (or next year, for that matter) by trading away T-Mac or Yao.

 

I beg to differ! if we had a true Point Guard like for instance Jason Kidd then Yao Ming would develop into really great player as he could fulfill his potential as a scorer.
The Problem is that Tracy is really a scorer not a playmaker, although he is better than Alston! Also Yao is not a playmaker, but Coach A seems to be trying to turn him into the second coming of Vlade Divats[Sp], in my opinion this is a total misuse of Yao and will be to the detriment of his heritage, and the success of the team.Just look at the last game Yao had a much better line than Howard but the press gave the accolades to Howard because he scored a few more points than Yao and gets his points in such a dramatic athletic fashion. I am sure that Tracy doesn't like the Vlade Yao scenario because it makes Yao more into the LEADER.Neither should be the leader, we need a floor general to take over that position, because neither has the character to lead.

 

yes but we're not going to be better this year, next year, the year after that, etc. if we keep tmac......it's time to go in a different direction...we might be worst off initially, but I think it would be better in the future..........

 

"One day the Rockets will have to face the reality that the Yao-McGrady experiment didn't work."

He just floats this out there, without clarification or modification, and never returns to it. If he wrote "One day the Rockets might have to admit that the Yao-McGrady experiment didn't work..." that would have been fine, but this is just awful writing and thinking.

As for the article in general, it's just restating what has been written a thousand times, though to be fair, it never seems to sink in, so maybe it needs to be repeated every week. I just wish they would let a better writer take a shot at it.

 

Today's Bulls showed you why the proposed Kobe trade for Gordon, Deng, and others probably wouldnt have worked too well for the Lakers. All those guys are GOOD but none of them are IMPACT. A lazy, jump shooting, jogging "hurt" McGrady showed how he's more talented and effective than Deng is.

Trading a superstar for several lesser players works in baseball not not so much in the NBA. Did the Shaq trade help the Lakers fortunes? When the Blazers traded Drexler to the Rockets (who cares I know) did the Blazers get any better from that deal? McGrady would have to demand a trade himself or get in fights with teammates to be tradable I think...meaning the culture was SO bad with him getting him out of town was a RELIEF to the team. As bas as McGrady's been, not sure he's been that much a detriment...yet.

That said I'm not that opposed to trading McGrady depending on the deal

 

Sure, you might not get equal value for T-mac. But, the Rocket can get a few good players that play well with the timid giant. Great outside shooters & some athletes are needed.

 

omg whats up with this Yao Ming love fest I dunno about you but Yao is soft and cannot ever carry a team to even a .600 like Tmac did when he was out. I mean cmon he got punked by Okur in the playoffs. In todays game you need speed and quickness something Yao does not have. It is not Tmacs fault that we have gayfer alston at point he is one of the worst point guards in the NBA, a undersize power forward that can't even make layups to save his life. You trade TMAC and I gurantee you the Rockets will be rebuilding for years. Yao cannot carry a team on his back. Granted if Tmac keeps dogging it like he did the past two games then by all means trade him because nobody likes a quitter. But seeing the him play in the Chicago games seems like he is actually trying to win. I mean lets wait to the end of the year to pass judgement. What do you think was gonna happen when we hire a new coach thats totally different style from what we were last year we were gonna automatically have the best record? Its funny how people think that trading your best player is gonna solve anything. You will never get equal value and getting some solid role players wont work because I repeat YAO cannot carry a team. People always point out how Tmac choked in the playoffs against Dallas and Utah but if I remember correctly he was the best player in both series. Yao non factor in Dallas and Utah. His moves are too predictable and slow. Look at what Utah did they just watched taped of him and shut him down. Even Okur said Yao is predictable in his moves. He has not added anything in his offense to make me think otherwise.

 

Also what snoopy said is correct LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LAKERS

 

JDM DC2? That's a tight ride. I'm about to JDM my teg if I get the money.

T-Mac hasn't gone anywhere in his career, true, but neither has Yao. Yao's not THAT young that he has time to wait while we have to rebuild after getting ripped in the McGrady trade.

I assume we end up something like the Lakers if we trade Yao. They are in bad, bad shape.

 

yah shady i see you on houston imports? I put it on myself so it would be cheaper

 

also would like to add

TMAC comes back. yao goes out with injury...WE WIN.

TMAC for this lineup > Yao with this lineup

 

it seems that alot of people on this board simply do not understand how much talent it takes to contend for a title in this league. all i keep seeing is how we will never win with mcgrady on the team. no, we will never win without stockpiling more talent onto this team.

really take a good look at the rosters of the top teams in league, then look at ours. we have two all-stars, and you guys REALLY think its a good idea to trade one away for a few slightly above average players and expect to be a better team ? people, please wake the hell up.

did you see how we played tonight when our role players knocked down shots ? if we become more consistent offensively (and i think we will) we'll be fine. neither of our stars were great from the field tonight and we still blew them out.
thats the kind of contributions the top teams get from their role players on a regular basis.

yao and t-mac are fine right where they are, do not trade them.

 

Nah bro I don't live in Houston anymore. I get my sht cheap here in the Bay Area though. I got the hook from Japan actually I'm still in college though so i'm too broke to afford a front even at a heavy discount.

There are some sick rides in Houston area though, but not as sick as some of the imports we get here. some crazy stuff man.

Anyways

Say bout T-Mac what you will, I still think he's a good fit on this team. Lazy, Heartless, blah, blah, I am willing to give him until the playoffs. I don't really care how, as long as we make the playoffs, judgement shall wait till then for me.

I think he played well in the playoffs. Could he have done more? Yes. But not by that much...considering all the defense on him. Just those last 3 minutes he could have given it all and drove in!!

Plus Yao doesn't have time to rebuild in my opinion. I know he's very athletic (not in the traditional NBA way, just in general as a 7-6 person) but how long will he stay in his prime? When will he slow down and be less of a factor? I give him 4 years. I don't think that's enough to really rebuild considering the talent level of some of the young teams now. (Portland, NOK, etc.)

 

shady mcgrady and apoc have valid points so stop with these gay trade Yao and trade tmac threads they are annoying. They are not going anywhere plus with all these rumors if I was Tmac i would play hard either if I just have a few bad games and there are already rumblings to trade me. Thats like a slap in the face he asked to be traded her and to here that no wonder he doesn't give the effort. Granted he sometimes doesn't go all out all the time he is one of the most talented ballers on the planet.

 

sorry for my horrible spelling its late