1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Charles Barkley Insights on Blake Griffin

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by 220living, Apr 20, 2012.

  1. 220living

    220living Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2011
    Messages:
    136
    Likes Received:
    69
    http://www.nba.com/video/channels/tnt_overtime/2012/04/19/20120412_top5_inside_5.nba/

    Don't know how to embed NBA videos. Well, anyway. Chuck basically is calling out Blake to develop go to offensive moves instead of expecting to dunk every time he has the ball. Then........ he talks about him NOT getting any help from teammates after getting fouled hard which is funny because half of the time Blake's teammates are on the ground acting like they got hit themselves lol. :grin:

    Discuss.
     
  2. ROXTXIA

    ROXTXIA Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2000
    Messages:
    20,066
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    I would've thought Griffin's numbers would have gone up with CP3 as a teammate.

    Griffin's a prima donna, sure, a punk, sure, but he does need to work on his offense and especially his free throws.

    As far as no teammate coming to Griffin's defense, who knows? Griffin's on the deck so often, usually with a nice arm-flail, chin-snap yell to ensure the ref sees it (not that last night's foul needed it); their reaction time might have been stunted as a result. "Oh, he's down again; wait, is he getting up?"
     
  3. 220living

    220living Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2011
    Messages:
    136
    Likes Received:
    69
    Yep, I know exactly what you mean. When you play with the same group of people for a period of time then you'll know whether they're flopping or not. Blake flops a lot so maybe that is why they aren't coming to his aide because they don't know if he is actually hurt by the fouls committed against him or just trying to draw a foul.
     
  4. GreatOne1978

    GreatOne1978 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2010
    Messages:
    2,874
    Likes Received:
    435
    Chris Paul's "ability to make teammates better" is overrated. There's a reason why he has accomplished just as much as Melo. Only once gone out of 1st round
     
  5. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 1999
    Messages:
    36,806
    Likes Received:
    13,186
    I don't think he's a punk or a prima donna. He's just not as dynamic of a basketball player as people like to think. Like I've said before, replace Griffin with Scola on that team and they'd still have close to the same record. Maybe 2-4 more losses.
     
  6. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2000
    Messages:
    21,625
    Likes Received:
    6,257
    He carried the hornets to the 2nd round. He is a top 5 player in the league. Melo is a top 10 player.
     
  7. what

    what Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2003
    Messages:
    14,588
    Likes Received:
    2,553
    griffin is learning how NOT to play, playing with chris paul. Whining about every call, flopping and then always trying to posterize dunk on everybody. He is going to be a hated player. He and the clips are the new jazz.
     
  8. 220living

    220living Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2011
    Messages:
    136
    Likes Received:
    69
    So Blake is all athleticism and no fundamental skills? Yeah. I would think so. He is still a project. Not the finished product yet so I wouldn't be surprised to see him develop new offensive post game during the off season. Free throws too.
     
  9. GreatOne1978

    GreatOne1978 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2010
    Messages:
    2,874
    Likes Received:
    435
    Its the other way around. Melo is top 5 and CP3 is top 10

    He beat a Dallas squad that was the epitome of choke city. Other than that he hasn't done anything in the playoffs

    Melo beat Dallas AND Chris Paul's Hornets.
     
  10. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2001
    Messages:
    6,480
    Likes Received:
    2,074
    I would say Melo is a top 10 and Chris is a top 10 but neither are top 5 so there! :grin:
     
  11. ROXTXIA

    ROXTXIA Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2000
    Messages:
    20,066
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    Could be.

    And I still say he's a bit of a punk. The way he preens over players that he dunks on. If he could just reeeeein that in a little.
     
  12. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2010
    Messages:
    2,409
    Likes Received:
    93
    Charles Barkley and insight. Amusing :)
     
  13. Mr. Space City

    Joined:
    May 2, 2009
    Messages:
    31,046
    Likes Received:
    36,461
    he really needs to learn how to shoot free throws.

    he's a slasher that shoots 51% from the ft line.

    he pretty much cancels his strength out with his free throw shooting.
     
  14. 220living

    220living Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2011
    Messages:
    136
    Likes Received:
    69
    Hahaha I was trying to create a title and insight was the first thing thatcame into mind. Lol after I created the thread I thought it sounded strange associating Barkley with that word.
     
  15. LOLatSoccer

    LOLatSoccer Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2012
    Messages:
    414
    Likes Received:
    6
    Vinny Del Negro cant develop young players

    Derrick Rose became MVP as soon as he left


    Clips badly need Mike DamPhoney.. If they really wanna be called "Lob City"
     
  16. Pieman2005

    Pieman2005 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2009
    Messages:
    4,070
    Likes Received:
    188
    Bro look at the Hornets without Paul.. last season they took the Lakers to game 6 with a bunch of injuries and Paul was carrying the team. I hate Paul and the b**** way he plays but if you think his game changing ability is weak you're a fool. I mean the Clippers are actually 4th seed in playoffs..
     
  17. ling ling

    ling ling Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2002
    Messages:
    1,671
    Likes Received:
    93
    when you develop such a great flop game, you can be easily stopped if the ref's don't give you the calls.

    Griffin needs to stop working on his flops and start working on his basketball skills.
     
  18. Shroopy2

    Shroopy2 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2003
    Messages:
    15,916
    Likes Received:
    1,601
    There's a case to be made that premiere point guards DON'T win championships. Steve Nash 2x MVP has never been to the Finals. (Eyes are on Derrick Rose). Its still a Bigs + Wings league until the "Rise of the Point Guard" results in titles.

    STILL, Chris Paul has DEFINITELY made the Clippers TEAM a better offensive unit.

    Last year the Clippers were #22 in offensive rating. This year they're #3. Don't have to get all into the validity of advanced stats, we know that is GREAT improvement.

    Chris Paul is the anti-Nash in that unlike Nash who plays uptempo pace, Paul plays a slooooow pace. Blake Griffin is shooting a tad better from the field this year, but needs more work in a half-court game besides going for lobs and dunks (And definitely needs to be a better DEFENDER).
     
  19. Dreamin

    Dreamin Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2010
    Messages:
    5,603
    Likes Received:
    63
    Agreed on both. Loved how he called out DeAndre saying he "does nothing anyway".

    So when Griffin gets fouled like that some one should come running in and give the perpetrator a solid hard push to the chest.
     
  20. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    42,490
    Likes Received:
    5,902
    Barkley was dead on with his comments on Deandre Jordan, who has exploded this year to become an 8/8 player vs. 7/7 last year. DJ will flatline his entire career. The guy is also not very bright.

    Regarding Griffin's skills, I'm surprised by his year-over-year decline in productivity. He seemed like a very hard worker and I expected him to reach another level after having a season to gauge himself. Until he develops a mid-range shooting touch and a better FT%, Griffin will never become a "go to" guy that can close games out.

    I expect K-Mart to retaliate eventually in Griffin's behalf. But maybe his teammates are tired of Blake's acting career like the rest of us.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now