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Capela's contract incentives

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Will, Sep 13, 2018.

  1. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    You know I didn't mean that. I trust you can see the importance of clarification given that Spotrac is crucially far off from the +$32k number you just reported -- roughly $500k off -- which is curiously = to one personal incentive off.

    https://www.spotrac.com/nba/houston-rockets/cap/

    Thanks for clarifying Spotrac's erroneous number. Frustrating they could be that far off. fwiw: they are very receptive to people correcting them ... hint, hint. ;) I know you strive to make cfnet more accurate. We use their numbers on the regular, so are wildly off, if we use their numbers right now.

    So, according to your spreadsheet, the answer to my #2 question is:
    • Disregarding all incentives in the calcuation, Rockets are $1,468,000 under the tax, correct?
     
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  2. luckyman76

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    From what I have seen with Spotrac they are very good about updating quickly but when it comes to incentives, min players, or nonguarantees they commonly have to update that stuff later which makes a lot of sense. We commonly see deals announced one way and the actual details vary slightly later. I have seen it take as much as a month or more.
     
  3. PolarBear

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    FT% now up to .634 after tonight's 4-5.
    Clint averages 4 FTs / game x 5 games left...so expect 20 FTs, give or take, yet to shoot.
    A 17-20 finish gets Clint in at .651, and an extra $500K...
     
  4. J.R.

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    Go Clint Go!
     
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    Remember that first year when it was so difficult to watch him struggle? I was just wanting him to throw Granny Shots at that point. All I could think of is that now we have an even worse free throw shooter than Dwight Howard, and a new target for the hack attack

    I'm so happy that he is finally overcoming that struggle! Yes, keep going and earn your bonus Clint!!
     
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  6. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Thanks for those calculations. Puts it into perspective
     
  7. PolarBear

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    FT% now up to .636 after last night's 1-1.
    Clint averages 4 FTs / game x 4 games left...so expect 16 FTs, give or take, yet to shoot.
    A 14-16 finish gets Clint in at .651, and an extra $500K...
     
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  8. today

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    Right now he's 152/239, so at a minimum he's got to do the following:

    Misses 0: 10/10
    Misses 1: 12/13
    Misses 2: 14/16
    Misses 3: 16/19
    Misses 4: 17/21
    Misses 5: 19/24
    Misses 6: 21/27

    I can totally see a scenario where James or CP tell the opposing players to foul Clint in a blowout game to help him get a chance at it.
     
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  9. J Sizzle

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    Hope it happens. Tilman deserves the embarrassment.
     
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    Wouldn't this screw over the rockets in the coming years, though?
     
  11. BMoney

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    Yeah, I am not going to be exactly happy about this as a fan of the team.
     
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  12. Will

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    Rockets signed House on March 12, supposedly the first day they could do that and still remain under the luxury tax if Capela hit his 65% free-throw target.

    Rockets waited until March 23 to sign Chiozza, which put them into the tax, per @BimaThug, if Capela hit the 65% target.

    The cynic in me wants to see what Capela's cumulative season FT percentage was on each of those days -- or, more precisely, what percentage he'd have to hit the rest of the way -- and what Morey's contract says about the consequences, for him, of exceeding or remaining under the tax.
     
  13. heypartner

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    You thinks it’s about Math, and calculated risk? Still doesn’t explain no need for Chiozza, before the point there is Zero risk.

    Fwiw: the day of the Chiozza signing, this Twitter exchange happened



    It’s not out of the realm of possibility that Morey actually likes Chiozza and some other team knew his Capela predicament and tried to steal him by applying maximum pressure wrt Incentive/Tax risk, but Chiozza gave us a friendly right of first refusal. And Morey took the risk.

    After all, we have no picks this year and no cash to spend to buy one, so if Morey likes someone, why not lock up his RFA status, as it’s similar to getting draft rights on a 2nd Round Pick, that Morey can’t have this year.

    Bottomline: did another team give Chiozza a take-it-or-leave-it proposition to force Morey into action on Chiozza.​
     
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  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Chiozza is a midget, not an NBA player, not sure why we let Cabaclo go for Charizo.

    DD
     
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  15. heypartner

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    That’s easy. We couldn’t get House on the team ASAP and ALSO sign Caboclo.

    Plus, MEM signed Caboclo before the Trade Deadline. Morey needed roster flexibility.

    This had nothing to do with Chiozza. Caboclo was long gone (Jan 21st) before Morey’s plan to get House on the team and stay under the Tax could mature.

    But, if Caboclo does finally stick in the NBA, I’m sure cfnet will scream the false connection that we had a choice between Chiozza and Caboclo, no matter how untrue it is. If anything, it was House ASAP v Caboclo v Trade Deadline flexibility.

    Of course, not caring about staying under the tax played a role too. But then Caboclo is least of our complaints, the bigger is House on MLE and losing Melton and all our picks.
     
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    For sure, he fulfills on those incentives and we win the championship.
     
  17. today

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    Right now he's 154/243, so at a minimum he's got to do the following:

    Misses 0: 12/12
    Misses 1: 14/15
    Misses 2: 15/17
    Misses 3: 17/20
    Misses 4: 19/23
     
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  18. larsv8

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    Is it only regular season, or do playoffs count
     
  19. mfastx

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    Since we already gave away our future draft picks, I'd rather we stay under the tax at this point.
     
  20. Carl Herrera

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    Sure you would, Tilman.
     

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