[CalStLa] Leftists go crazy when Conservative is allowed to speak as guest speaker.

Well said.

 

Agree. Universities should be places where all ideas are fair game for a fair and critical hearing.

That said, the insinuation of Breitbart type outlets is that the scene in this video clip is somehow typical of rotten, liberal-breeding universities. (As if the scene of someone getting roughed up at a Trump rally means millions of Trump supporters are ready to spring to violence.)

I've been to many universities and have spent my life in universities, and I've never seen anything like this happen, even when a conservative speaker comes to campus. I've seen protests for various politicians (from across the political spectrum), but even those were respectful.

Overall, it's problematic that, among its many other flaws, the internet allows people to take anecdotal snapshots and verify their beliefs or make determinations about larger movements and groups of people. That is very sad and results in disasters like our current POTUS race, while making the media lots of $ and getting them lots of clicks and angry viewers, etc. Blech.

 

My youngest son is Autistic and I agree on the vaccine thing. My son was stimming and doing other things that were symptoms of Autism long before he was vaccinated. The anti vaccine people are spreading fear and paranoia that is causing people to make bad choices for their children

 

I agree with you, and you have my best wishes for you and your son. I hope he's doing well, and I can recommend this new book Neuro Tribes, if you're interested, about the spectrum and its history. Great writer anyway.

The anti vax thing seems concentrated on the far left, to me. Here in NoCal, we have some of the least vaccinated populations of children in the nation, due to their otherwise affluent, hippy parents being convinced that vaccines are a government/big pharma conspiracy. It's literally true that we don't even achieve herd immunity in some places like Santa Cruz (south of San Francisco) and parts of Marin county (north of San Francisco).

 

This is what it should all be about! Agree...disagree...it doesn't matter. The point is that you have the right to speak your mind.

 

It is sad that media outlets like FoxNews use these instances to gin up fear in their viewers. Combine that with conservative radio and you have a veritable storm of fear and hatred of liberals that keeps an audience tuned in and wound up. The corporations and personalities have a strong financial interest in faux controversy and it is our country and civil society that suffer for it.

 

Violence came from both hippies and reactionaries back then; King and Alinsky helped mainstream non-violent protests, but a lot of goofballs on both sides of any issue would riot all the time.

 

Come on man. You can bash Fox for being over the top right wing, (I might even agree with some of that criticism) but the video's speak for themselves. They LITERALLY had to sneak people in to hear someone give a speech. That is not only sad but dangerous.

Putting this comment in here tends to lead me to believe you feel this is much ado about nothing.

This is AMERICA. A place where we celebrate freedom of speech. And in this case, the left was trying to suppress speech. Try being an American first for once instead of an attack dog justifying ugly and despicable behavior.

 

As someone of this generation of young folk, I myself don't understand it at all. We were raised and educated (or at least I was) on the Constitution and on Lockeian principles of freedom of speech etc.

I'm spending the semester in Europe and for all the **** we give them about their restrictions on free speech, I've noticed students from outside the US are a lot more open minded. Whether they be French, Spanish, Brazilian, Irish, Japanese- whatever the case may be, when we disagree we talk about it, and we understand that- because of the differences between our countries' history or the way we think - that we will never see eye to eye on things like gun control or foreign policy or whatever.

Yet, the American students here are the opposite. I come from a university that's extremely politicized- so I'm used to debate and disagreement (doesn't hurt that I spend a lot of my high school years here in the D&D :grin but most of the American student get angry when you disagree with them. I actually lie to most of the American students here when they ask me my political views, because what I've found is that when you disagree, everyone gets mad.

I don't know if its because we grew up in a very polarized political system. I don't know if its because we grew up coddled and were taught to be safe from anything that felt threatening. But I do know that being an educated, mature adult is about dealing with ideas you don't agree with. I think part of the problem is that my generation doesn't know how to think. I've had liberal professors. I've had conservative professors. And you know what? I reconciled those ideas and formed my own viewpoint on what they had to say. I think most of my generation was taught to blindly follow or preach what they're taught; and for a lot of them that means blindly following whatever BS they're fed from ultra liberal professors.

I'll probably make a mediocre parent, but goddamnit, I want to make sure my kids know how to think. Because our country can't last based on people blindly following whatever they hear.

 

These sorts of videos make me very angry.

I've seen a disproportionate amount of black women behave this way more times than I can remember.

 

I don't get it. Don't people normally protest to bring attention to their cause? So they want to protest but don't want people to pay attention to their protest?