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Bryd re KKK: Non, Je ne regrette rien

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  1. halfbreed

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    actually the pope was in the hitler youth and service was mandatory. plus he was a 14 year old boy. its alot different than being an adult of free will and joining the kkk. i didnt like david duke b/c of his kkk involvment and i recall alot of opposition to him because of it from the democrats.

    in the end, if the people in his state elect him than thats their buisness and not mine.

    back to ratzinger though, check this out...

    "In 1937 Ratzinger’s father retired and the family moved to Traunstein, a staunchly Catholic town in Bavaria close to the Führer’s mountain retreat in Berchtesgaden. He joined the Hitler Youth aged 14, shortly after membership was made compulsory in 1941."
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1572667,00.html

    it is ironic however, in light of the fact that john paul was actually involved in some underground resistance movements against the nazi's in poland. also the fact that john paul did more to establish a better relationship between jews and catholics and the next pope was in the hitler youth.
     
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    Sen. Byrd regrets KKK past

    CHARLESTON, WV, United States (UPI) -- Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., has said in a new book he regrets his involvement with the Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s.

    Byrd, 87, who organized a Klan chapter in West Virginia, has since renounced the group, but his past actions still return to haunt him, The Washington Post reported Sunday.

    "It has emerged throughout my life to haunt and embarrass me and has taught me in a very graphic way what one major mistake can do to one`s life, career, and reputation," Byrd wrote in a his memoir, "Robert C. Byrd: Child of the Appalachian Coalfields," scheduled to be published Monday by West Virginia University Press.

    Byrd has become one of the most powerful and enduring figures in modern Senate history, having held the premier leadership post in the Senate twice, helping to ratify the Panama Canal treaty, opposing the Iraq war and allocating funds to help his home state.

    http://news.monstersandcritics.com/northamerica/article_1016786.php/Sen._Byrd_regrets_KKK_past
     
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    sounds like he regrets that it has haunted his laife, not that he was in the KKK to begin with. interesting distinction.
     
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    Daddy?
    Yes, son.
    What does regret mean?
    Well son, the funny thing about regret is that it's better to regret
    something you have done than to
    Regret something that you haven't done
    And by the way, If you see your mom this weekend, will you be sure and
    tell her...
    SATAN SATAN SATAN!!!!
     
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    did you read his statement completely? he called it a major mistake right? that means he regrets not only the consequences but the act to begin with as well..

    are you saying he's still proud or justifying his joining? why do yo hate him so much? because he's anti-war and democrat sp he automatically hates america and a terrorist? or are you just trying to deflect all the criticism towards bush right now?
     
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    Cette fil est merde
     
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    dis moi qui tu frequente et je te dis qui tu es.
     
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    pas vraiment

    il m'a laissé parler mauvais français
     
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    ayez un week-end agréable tout
     
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    tout connaissez-vous vraiment le français ou vous traducteur de poissons de Babel de Alta Vista juste d'utilisation ?
     
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    c'est ma premiere langue

    1.) francais
    2.) anglais
    3.) grec
    4.) arab
    5.) espagnol
    6.) italien
    7.) armenien
     
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    Joschka Fischer, the foreign minister and vice-chancellor of Germany, was a Marxist terrorist in the 60's who hung out with the PLO and threw Molotov cocktails at Police.

    The KKK issue is somewhat vague to me. If he was a member of a KKK group and was actively involved in cross burning and murder, for instance, a ban might be reasonable. If he were a member of one of the modern versions that is under such close scrutiny that they don't break the law then I think the situation might be very different.

    To exclude someone from office for dangerous ideas or ideology is a really bad idea based on historical precedent. Perhaps we should be more concerned with why voters would vote for someone if they have such ideas.
     
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    Psycho killer, qu'est que c'est
     
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    Butthole Surfers get additonal bonus points. Please move to the next round.
     
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    Rappelez-vous juste, la mission a été déjà accompli en Irak.
     
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    Try again.
     
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    one has nothing to do with the other. byrd, IIRC, was a grand dragon, not some guy who just joined because he liked the outfits.
     
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    still does not change the fact that he has admited it was a major mistake..
     
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    de tous les deux

    ;)
     

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