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Brendan Haywood possibly heading to Chicago

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by ommy48, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. ommy48

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    A Realgm poster with some sources of value posted a rumor that Brendan Haywood could be heading to the Bulls for James Johnson and Tyrus Thomas.


    http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=984524

    Latest info I got is that Brendan Haywood has been informed that he could be going to Chicago for Tyrus Thomas and James Johnson.This comes from a player my guy represents here in Europe and is close to Brendan.


    The same poster said that the Bulls were also looking to do a JJ Reddick and Anthony Johnson for John Salmons swap with the Magic a week ago:


    http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=982656



    There is a manager I am very close to here in Greece and one of the top teams(OSFP) are targetting JJ Redick for next year.They are monitoring the situation and thinking of sending feelers with a mulimillion offer(our boy Arn Tellem will be thrilled).Of course my guy learned a few days ago that Reddick could be Chicago bound along with Anthony Johnson for John Salmons(Olympiacos really really likes him).The team believes it will be easier to get Redcock if he goes to Chicago(Bulls having other priorities as far as players).

    Looks like the Bulls are indeed shopping John Salmons.
     
  2. Chamillionaire

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    if the magic get salmons, that would be a great upgrade, except they need shooters around DH12, isn't Reddick one of the best, if not the best shooter in the league? why isn't he participating in the 3 point contest. oh, i forgot about novak. he's the best shooter in the league by far.
     
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    and Haywood, what, he's like 33? i don't want anything to do with him.
     
  4. Slimjim19

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    Not a bad trade for the Wizards if this deal happens. Tyrus might finally get some more playing time.
     
  5. baller4life315

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    Noah, Brad Miller, Jerome James (if he counts).....

    How many centers do the Bulls need?

    I understand the frustration with Tyrus Thomas, but I would look elsewhere before adding yet another center to the equation. Of course, there's a strong chance Miller could be moved so I guess that could change the landscape of this type of deal a bit.
     
  6. ommy48

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    Jerome James will never play in the NBA again due to injuries and Noah recently came down with plantar fasciitis and is out for the next 4 games and could be out for up to 4 weeks if the foot doesn't improve soon. And Brad Miller is not going anywhere because the Bulls want to impress in the playoffs for the FA's in 2010 and his role on the team is too valuable as the back-up center. If Haywood is acquired then Noah would be moved to the 4 spot where he can wreck havoc and move Taj Gibson to a more suitable backup PF spot. So this trade makes a lot of sense for the Bulls, and coupled with a Salmons for Reddick swap would allow the Bulls to shed even more salary (Haywood is also expiring this year) while addressing pressing needs (frontcourt depth and 3 point shooting).

    If Gar Forman pulls these two deals off, then the Bulls are in great shape not only in the short term, but also this coming summer in trying to attract Bosh and/or Wade/LBJ/Joe Johnson.
     
  7. baller4life315

    baller4life315 Contributing Member

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    I highly doubt that the Bulls consider Brad Miller anything more than just a replaceable rotation chump with a large contract with which they have the option to parlay into a better player or other expiring contracts (example: Chicago's interest in McGrady). Also, I haven't read anything that indicates Noah's injury will jeopardize his season or anything of the sort. He'll be back as will Miller unless he's traded. I was merely commenting on the logjam that this type of situation creates with one bona fide starter (Noah) getting the majority of the minutes with two vets (Miller/Haywood) undoubtedly concerned about playing for each of their respective last major contracts.
     
  8. ommy48

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    Bulls' Noah shut down till after All-Star break


    February 4, 2010 5:31 PM | 1 Comment | UPDATED STORY
    By K.C. Johnson

    ATLANTA -- The Bulls have opted to rest Joakim Noah and the plantar fasciitis in his left foot at least through the All-Star break and Noah is scheduled to return to Chicago for treatment Thursday night.

    Noah clearly has labored through the last two games and didn't participate in the Bulls' light practice at Georgia Tech Thursday.

    "It's frustrating," Noah said late Wednesday in Philadelphia. "I can't move the way I want to."

    At practice, coach Vinny Del Negro confirmed management had discussed making this move. Del Negro battled plantar fasciitis for close to two seasons during his playing career.

    "Just because you rest for two or three weeks doesn't mean it will go away, Del Negro warned.

    Noah has only missed the Houston game with the injury but played less than 3 minutes in the fourth quarter and overtime of Wednesday's loss to the 76ers.
     
  9. ommy48

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    Noah leaves team for treatment; anyone coming?


    Say it ain’t so, Jo.
    Joakim Noah, arguably the Bulls most consistent player this season and the unofficial team spirit as the NBA’s No. 3 rebounder, was sent home Thursday from the Bulls road trip in Atlanta and will miss at least the next four games through the All Star break because of his plantar fasciitis.

    “We’re shutting him down,” said Bulls general manager Gar Forman. “It’s the best course of action right now. He’s coming back to Chicago to get rest and treatment. We’ll reevaluate it after the All-Star break.”

    The principal treatment for plantar fasciitis generally is rest, and the Bulls are hopeful getting almost two weeks’ rest now—the first game after the All-Star break is Feb. 16 at home—will help Noah’s foot feel well enough to return to his previous level of play.

    Noah is averaging 11.2 points and 12 rebounds this season. But he failed to come close to a double/double in each of the last two games, both losses, and was noticeably slowed. Noah barely played in the fourth quarter and overtime in the loss to the 76ers Wednesday. He missed the Houston game on the Western Conference road trip because of the plantar fasciitis.

    So what now?

    Brad Miller, who has his own knee problems, is expected start, as he did for Noah in Houston when Miller had 25 points. Taj Gibson, who also is suffering from plantar fasciitis but will continue playing, probably will remain at power forward with Tyrus Thomas expected to get additional time.

    The Bulls also figure to add a player on a 10-day contract.

    The most likely is U. of Florida big man Chris Richard, who was with the Bulls in training camp and has been playing in the D-League with the Tulsa 66ers. The Bulls in these kinds of situations generally like to bring in players who are familiar with their play.

    Richard is strong but undersized, about 6-8 and 255, an inside player with limited offensive game. He played off the bench with Noah at Florida and was a second round pick of the Minnesota Timberwolves in 2007. He played in 52 games, even starting three, but mostly has been in the D-League since. Richard is averaging 10.1 points and 8.6 rebounds this season for Tulsa.

    Here are some others the Bulls may also consider this season: Perhaps old friend Jared Reiner, playing for the Fort Wayne Mad Ants of the D-League. He is averaging 14.1 points and 9.5 rebounds. Reiner, from Iowa, signed with the Bulls in 2004-05 and started two games. He averaged 1.1 points and two rebounds. He writes an amusing blog and wrote of "being released on the tarmac" by the Clippers in camp. The 6-11 center also has been with the Suns, Supersonics, Spurs, Bucks and 76ers. He also played in Spain. The Bulls also could look at Rob Kurz of Notre Dame or St. Joe's Dwyane Jones, a 6-11 center averaging 17.1 points and 15 rebounds, the biggest scorer of the bunch. The latter two also are in the D-League.

    I would not expect the Bulls to make a trade to address Noah’s absence, especially because you do not replace what Noah has brought to the team. You try to survive his absence.

    “It just wasn’t getting better and we wanted him to get rest and treatment,” said Forman. “Our medical staff thought that was the best course of action.”

    Forman said Noah was told to follow this course of action.

    “He’ll never sit himself down,” Forman said. “In talking to him, you could tell it wasn’t getting better. We need to shut him down for a little bit. For four games. At least.

    “It’s going to have a big effect on us, obviously,” said Forman. “It will hurt us, but we’ll see what happens. It will be an opportunity for other guys to step up and we feel we have players who can do that.”

    http://blogs.bulls.com/chicago_bulls_blog/2010/02/noah-leaves-team-for-treatment-anyone-coming.html
     
  10. ommy48

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    Joakim Noah (foot) could be out a few weeks


    Joakim Noah - F/C - Chicago BullsMore team news

    Feb. 8, 2010 - 11:45 AM ET


    Joakim Noah had blood from his arm injected into his ailing foot on Friday -- a procedure "which could sideline [Noah] for several weeks."

    Noah is still targeting a return soon after the All-Star break, but it now sounds like that's wishful thinking. Teammate Taj Gibson, who also suffers from plantar fasciitis, said, "He had the tough treatment on it; he's going to be out awhile." Keep him benched and expect Brad Miller to continue playing well as a starter in his absence.


    Source: Chicago Sun-Times
     
  11. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    ommy48,

    That's still all, at most, a few weeks. lol
     
  12. ommy48

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    yeah but a few weeks without easily their second best player behind Rose, and their best post defender and #1 energy guy is a big blow for a team that is fighting tooth and nail to secure a playoff spot, and which has no frontcourt depth whatsoever right now. Brad Miller is not capable of sustaining heavy minutes for weeks on end, and Taj Gibson has plantar fasciitis as well, not to mention that VDN hates Tyrus Thomas and refuses to play him for stretches. Point being that Brendan Haywood would be a definite need for the Bulls and would not create a logjam as another member suggested.
     

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