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Beto vs Ted

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Jan 24, 2018.

  1. Nook

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    Nah, Cruz is a knob.

    Not all Republicans are KKK fans....... but almost all KKK fans are Republicans.
     
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    Twitter meltdown morning. My goodness dems take their L's so poorly.
     
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    you have actual gop politicians that take contributions from racist groups. The white house is infested with politicians that cherish Mussolini and what he accomplished. Actions speak louder than words. Replace those people with honorable republicans then we can talk about not labeling all immigrants as rapists and criminals.
     
  4. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    He wants to take healthcare away from millions of people and keep people with preexisting conditions form getting insurance. That's not something a good guy does.
     
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    Yes? What about it?

    The post I responded to was trying to make it seem like every single thing was in Cruz's favor which just isn't true.

    Midterms elections are almost always a huge boon for the party that lost the presidential election. The base of that party is fired up to take back branches of government and the party that won is more complacent. It's a pretty well documented political trend.
     
  6. mockster

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    Define which racist groups?. People claim the NRA is racist. I’m not doubting some corrupt politicians don’t. How many dems take funds from soros and other sketchy groups?. Both sides are guilty of taking dirty money
     
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    Not all democrats are antifa but all antifa are democrats

    Smh such an easy phrase to say. KKK are only republicans cuz they only have 2 options of coarse they are gonna support the party that had the least amount heat on them and ideologies such as gun ownership rights. Just because they choose the republican side doesn’t mean it’s becayse republicans are pro KKK
     
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    I don’t know anything about him, I know the left will find anything to splat on somebody. People’s definition of racism or etc can be overly exgerrated so it further proves their cause

    But I have not done any research on him and I’m sure many naive voters didn’t either but it’s a very tricky situation but I would generally agree if he is truley racist then that’s a no go but this is far few inbetween. Majority of republicans are not racist.

    This is a lie by the left making it seem like it’s an epidemic and anyone who voted for trump is racist

    As much as I dislike trump he’s shown no signs of true racism. This is the guy that was given awards by black men for hiring minorties and etc. this is the dude snoop dog and Diddy were cool with but all of a sudden he runs for the opposite side and he’s racist but apparently they had no issues with him back then
     
  10. mockster

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    This is a biased and debatable issue. I’m pro healthcare but I’m also aware that somebody has to pay for these things and you cannot always use your magic wand to do these socialists forms of government. Because we’re not comparable to a small population country that offers the same things

    I won’t get into this debate but I don’t think it’s because he likes seeing sick people. The left has different view and so does the right

    They both bring great points I think they should meet in the middle somehow
     
  11. Nook

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    And?

    On a side note, the KKK isn't necessarily pro gun ownership, they have attempted to prevent lots of citizens from owning guns.

    I agree with you, the KKK is typically Republican because they are more closely aligned belief wise with Republicans.

    I doubt the ANTIFA vote, as many are anarchists but they are more closely aligned with the political party against fascism and white supremacy.

    It wasn't long ago that I could say that people like King or Duke would be outside of a major party.... not so much anymore. Although the same can be said for socialist democrats, they were poison a decade ago.... not anymore.
     
  12. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Where was this "somebody has to pay for these things" when the GOP (Cruz included) passed the tax cut? Our deficit has only gotten worse and they are taking away what social services we have left.

    Who's gonna pay for the deficit?
     
  13. mockster

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    Antifa is just as terrible as the KKK of not more dangerous at this moment [more violence from them recent years]

    Problem is they aren’t actually fighting white supremacy. 80% of the time they are crashing a trump speech and hitting innocent people and calling them Nazis when they are very misguided

    Belief wise yes but I don’t think it’s fair to say because of that they are the same or identical. People from the south have been hating KKK before it was cool which is why I found it laughable they actually think republicans enjoy the KKK or nazism

    The liberal media is dangerous in my eyes. Don’t get me wrong the rights biased isn’t great but when you are literally telling people a group is racist and Nazis that’s just insane
     
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    Like I said I’d rather not to deter off into a long debate

    I’ll just say not everything is black n white

    I’ll leave it at this not a big fan of Cruz I wish at least another republican would take his place in running for senate but I still don’t think he has the worst intent of Texas in mind like some would believe
     
  15. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Cruz' intent is the Whitehouse. It always has been, not the citizens of Texas. In that regard he's a **** representative of the state.
     
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    Well that was an article about Steve King...you want a quick picture of Steve King?

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    Interesting choice of flags there on his desk there...

    Here is the thing. You are looking for BLATANT examples of racism, which is something you won't find. No one comes out wearing a "I HATE MUSLIMS AND BLACKS" shirt on. When people talk about racism, they talk about little slights that go along with actions. King retweeting multiple times, white nationalist tweets and hanging out with white nationalist, to me, say "I'm actually a racist." then the flag there on the desk and his comments on immigration and how minorities haven't contributed to civilization...all says to me... "I'm a racist."

    He's NEVER going to openly come out and say it because it makes it harder for him to win, but make no doubt about it, he's racist.

    Actual racist would call him "Our Guy" basically anyone they believe that's on their side but know they can't come out and openly say it.

    The right in America has an issue with racism and the only way to deal with that issue is to confront it and be honest about it.

    When I see people on the right cheering for a Brazillian president that threatens genocide that tells me a lot of these people are racist. They won't tell you face to face, but they'll think it. Their actions speak louder than words.

    So instead of people fighting for ALL Georgians to go out and vote, they are quiet about the shenanigans that happened there or say nothing happened there at all and people are just 'whining' about it.

    When people complain about the racism the right basically ignores it. I'm sorry, as a minority, either you are for me and will fight for me or you will not. There is no middle ground. Either you want me to vote or you are trying to suppress my vote...taking some middle ground means you are trying to suppress my vote and be slick about it. This is how I feel about every racial issue, look up the MLK quote about the white moderate to see where I stand on this.
     
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    I’ll disagree, he’s not perfect and his looks like a blobfish but obvioisly Texas has been doing something right as we’re a very succesful state.
     
  18. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Hard not to be successful when you have the resources and of a first world country and larger than most as well. Ted Cruz didn't lead that success. He's only had the job for 2 terms and ran for President at the very first chance he got.
     
  19. mockster

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    Kinda like how dems praises Venezuela?. Double standards always.

    Yeah he looks sketch, I won’t deny that. It’s ashame but it’s still a rarity I’d also have to do way more research on him. A flag doesn’t mean much to me but it’s obviously shows where he could stand
     
  20. JayGoogle

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    I've not seen Antifa crash a single Trump speech and the person they've hit most notably is Richard Spencer...actual self described racist and white nationalist.

    Since the ideals of Antifa are grounded and good how could they then be worse than KKK? The KKK at its height was lynching black people and burning churches with children in them.

    Has Antifa done any of that?
     

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