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Attorney General William Barr has appointed a U.S. attorney to examine the origins of the Russia inv

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  1. FranchiseBlade

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    We do. As long as it doesn't jeopardize further undercover work. But if our right-wing fans favor this declassification, they will also support the unredacted Mueller report and release of the underlying evidence.

    Right??
     
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    You're the ones demanding the public release of the information classified for that reason from the Mueller report, so you tell us, should we do that?

    We know they can protect that info, they just did so, even Mueller is refusing to testify on public on those things to protect it.
     
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    Some Democrats in Washington seem to be suggesting that these extensive disclosures are evidence of a "cover up".

    You really cannot make this stuff up.
     
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    Disclosure only when it supports the President so he can weaponize the DOJ against his political enemies?

    This is not how our country is suppose to work.
     
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    No worries Barr will redact anything not suitable.
     
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    It’s actually been reported that he’s not wanting to testify because of the politics. Read between the lines here but it’s obvious that the right will take every chance they can to say “See!! He’s a disgruntled Hillary lover!!” And at that point... as unjustified as it would be, would undermine his work of two years.

    Actually I’m not demanding the public release of all the Mueller content. I’ve scrutinized Barr’s decision to withhold that to the appropriate people in Congress. People that see classified info all the damn time. If there’s stuff in there the public has a right to know about, we’d then at least get an indication they are holding back for political protection of Trump or if it’s for legit protection of national security etc.

    Barr’s mandate here is beyond ridiculous and you know it, but it is what it is. We know now who Barr is and he’s a true believer in autocratic governance. It’s in his own words and he’s been crystal clear about that. This is pure two bit dictator crap and it is what it is.

    BUT... the only difference is unlike some third world country The Supreme leader here can’t just throw anyone in jail forever for no reason. Bill Barr and a prosecutor under his jurisdiction will ultimately have to deal with a jury’s decision to put in jail someone with the stature and legal fortitude of a James Comey or Jim Baker if they really want to truly prosecute people for crimes. Do you really think career guys at that level really put themselves in enough legal jeopardy where you could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they committed crimes with criminal intent?

    No... of course not. Which then leads to the obvious conclusion that the intent of this expedition is to find stuff like texts messages like they found with Peter S. and Lisa Page. Find some emails that they can spin, and damage reputations....IE Right Wing Media Entertainment.

    This is a disgraceful two bit wannabe dictator exercise and you know it. I don’t really care because it’s just an exercise to entertain the people who are already going to believe all the stupid easily provably false Facebook meme posts and doctored videos.

    So have at it Bill Barr and the right wing fantasy land. Nothing I can say will make those millions of Americans believe what is real and what is fake even if it smacks them across the face.
     
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    That is what your people have been doing to Trump going back to the Obama administration.

    Seriously, do you read what you type at all?
     
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    Ditto. We are in uncharted territory now.
     
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    I have no idea what the redacted information actually is. So it is impossible for me to say it should be released or not released. I trust if Mueller says it shouldn't be released that it shouldn't be released. I don't trust Trump or Barr to decide what should be released or not.

    Trump has been the most careless president we've ever had with keeping state secrets and protecting Intelligence gathering. Barr has shown that he's placed Trump above honesty when it comes to this investigation.

    I think that members of Congress who are on the intel committees or other appropriate committees and have a high enough security clearance should be allowed to view the unredacted report and underlying evidence.
     
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    The intel community leaks like a sieve and is suddenly upset at things Barr hasn't even done.

    Of course, they aren't really concerned about "muh sources and methods". They are just afraid of any scrutiny re their domestic spying activities against opposition political campaigns.

     
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    There are leaks and that is a problem no matter who does it. Because there are some leaks doesn't mean it's okay to have more leaks.

    Also the leaks mentioned by Ari the dimwit didn't disrupt sources and methods. Ari and the rest of you need to stop trashing the dossier until you can point out which parts were proven false. We know some of it has already been verified. You and others continuing to act like it is completely false doesn't make it a reality.
     
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    No, that's what your brainwashed mind as been led to believe. You nut jobs have drunk the conspiracy syrup way too much.

    Trump has Russian contacts - numerous ones. Many republicans acknowledge this. They are very disturbing. Yet you defend him.

    You are a traitor.
     
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    Wow!!!!! Omg this is so groundbreaking and new.

    Why doesn’t the Trump regime and Barr then indict Page and Strzok for treason and have fun convincing a jury that this is criminal?

    Until you can indict and successfully prosecute beyond a reasonable doubt without being a laughing stock in court this is a conspiracy theory you are using to politically motivate yourself and others to support a two bit wannabe dictator who puts children in cages and sends love letters to Kim Jung Un.

    The big question is why are you so desperate to throw support for such an anti-American president that you obsess over text messages of two FBI lifers who happen to be human beings with opinions? What are you getting out of this presidency that is so important that you’d go to such great lengths to keep convincing yourself you need to fight the fight on his behalf? Do you own a private prison, or run a coal mine or something? What is it?
     
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    I’m posting relevant info relative to the topic. Your Trump derangement knows no bounds.
     
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    You are posting information about a Liz Cheney fact free opinion. I can only see it being relevant for someone with no critical thinking skills.

    Guessing your own Trump derangement may be at work here.
     
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    How is it relevant and new? It’s just an opinion about an old conspiracy theory that has never led to an indictment. You want me to post every time anyone has an online opinion about Trump/Russia that is anti Trump?

    Please explain this coupe better? How did personal text messages with opinions lead to a massive conspiracy to take down a president?? A conspiracy that mind you.. Rod Rosenstein, and a GWB appointed Judge would have to be in on since they viewed the evidence and signed off on the investigation.

    Why can’t you just admit people like Trump jr shouldn’t have been unpatriotic idiots meeting with Russians to solicit help from the Kremlin? Why can’t you just say Trump shouldn’t have been working with the Kremlin to get Trump Tower Moscow built and lying the American voters about it and move on?

    Why is everything someone else’s fault and some massive conspiracy theory just to explain how Trump isn’t just a F up surrounded by other F ups? You can still say you support and will vote for Trump in 2020 despite. People here like myself would have far more respect for you and other Trump fanatics if you didn’t need the victimhood fantasies to justify your support.
     
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    Relax, the investigations are ongoing and will decide. You sure loved NewRox postings of every rat dropping related to the Mueller investigation which I’ll remind you found no collusion.
     

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