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Attorney General William Barr has appointed a U.S. attorney to examine the origins of the Russia inv

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    Yes it does.

    And in a passage that often gets overlooked by reporters and pundits alike, IG Horowitz concluded in his final report about the Clinton email caper that the anti-Trump biases that FBI agent Strzok and bureau lawyer Lisa Page expressed in text messages may have affected their decisionmaking to focus more urgently on the now disproven Trump-Russia collusion allegations rather than to finish work on the former secretary of State’s email problems, an investigation code-named Midyear.

    “In assessing the decision to prioritize the Russia investigation over following up on the Midyear-related investigative lead ... we were particularly concerned about text messages sent by Strzok and Page that potentially indicated or created the appearance that investigative decisions they made were impacted by bias or improper considerations,” the Justice Department's watchdog wrote.

    So the FBI’s chief lawyer originally thought Clinton should be indicted, and the bureau wrote a draft supporting the felony standard, but then walked back its decision. And agents focused more on unsubstantiated Trump collusion than Clinton emails in what the IG feared might be a sign of bias.
     
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    First of all, nothing was disproven. In fact, we have mountains of evidence about the types of collaboration between the Trump campaign and Russia.

    This article also leaves out the fact that the same agents expressed in their texts extreme displeasure with Hillary Clinton.

    It's funny what reporters leave out of their story when trying to feed a narrative.
     
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    Seriously? That’s what the mass media has done for 3 yrs and you have bought into said narrative but now you have a problem with it? Ok. Which reminds me I need to rebump the Mueller investigation thread.
     
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    Yea,there is so much "evidence" that Weissmann and his crew could not find a single thing to pin on Trump.
     
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    Um, numerous indictments resulted from that investigation.
     
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    Please do. There is a lot of verified contacts between Trump and the Russians in addition to the Russian interference which people seem to be ignoring.
     
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    Sorry. I don't think you're really qualified to comment on any of the findings of the investigation. Myself and others have listed verified contacts between the Trump campaign and Russians including the Trump campaign actively seeking help from the Russian government and other hostile foreign intel agencies in an effort to help them in the election. That is true whether or not it was an actual prosecutable crime or not. You've been asked about it, and have refused to comment.

    You haven't addressed a single piece of the evidence in the report that shows and confirms that happened. Until you do, you don't really have a credible voice in debate. You are free to comment on whatever you want. But you'll have to understand that you are ignoring facts and evidence that shows those contacts did happen and that the Trump campaign desired information from a hostile foreign intelligence agency in their effort to win the election.
     
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    I have read the entire Mueller Report.

    There are a number of connections and even questionable connections between Trump and Russia. Indeed Russia wanted Trump to win. However there is no evidence of conspiracy.

    What there is evidence of is obstruction of justice by the sitting President. The Mueller Report lays it all out and states that the decision to impeach or prosecute rests with congress or states attorneys once Trump leaves office. Mueller was clear that he did not exonnerate the President on obstructing justice.
     
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    mick try, mick fail
     
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    Mueller didn’t exonerate because it wasn’t his job, his job was to investigate and I gotta tell you for an investigator who didn’t even know who Fusion GPS was is pretty fukin lame. It wasn’t an investigation it was a failed take down.
     
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    So you think its totally normal & acceptable for a candidate for President of the United States to be contractually negotiating directly with the Kremlin while running for President for a business venture that would be the biggest business venture of his entire business career?

    AND.... the fact that he lied to you about it to our faces does not bother you one bit?

    Boy.... you really have a low moral compass if you view the Mueller Investigation through the lens of criminal charges and not Right from Wrong. Something I wouldn't expect from someone who wears his Christianity on his sleeve.

    Also.. if it is ONLY about criminality than that also is not true. The Mueller Report broke open through a referral case against Michael Cohen the fact that Trump illegally ordered a crime that Cohen is currently doing time for. So yeah.. the Mueller report did in FACT find something to pin crimes on Trump. Its just that you... again as a Christian.... are okay with cheating on your wife with a p*rn star while she is pregnant, and then covering it up in an illegal conspiracy to defraud the American people during an election.

    Saying the Mueller report did not find "anything to pin on Trump" is just a factual lie. Something that a man of faith shouldn't do if he's truly trying to represent Christian values.

    What the Mueller report did not do is show any immoralities, lies, and deception that you are not accepting of. Says alot more about you than it does anything else.
     
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    So it only would have been a successful "take-down" if it would have convinced Trumpers like you that he should not longer be serving as Supreme Leader??

    Yeah... Mueller was never going to do that. As Trump himself said... he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and you'd probably support him more. You'd blame the victim i'm 100% positive. You are in a cult.

    You are okay with Trump lying to you about business dealings with the Kremlin (Trump Tower Moscow). You are okay with him raw dogging a p*rn star while his wife is pregnant, and ordering an illegal scheme to cover it up... again... to lie to you.

    Again... the Mueller report really just says more about supporters like you than anything else. The facts are what they are. How the truly devoted Trump loyalists react to the facts is what it is. You are a mark for a con man. I hope that makes you feel good about yourself.

    The fact is, criminal or not, I'm just not okay with the FACTS laid out in the Mueller report such as Trump Tower Moscow. You are.... because you and many others are okay with that, there might not be the public outcry to remove him from office. If that's who 40% of Americans want representing the country than that's on the 40%.

    You get what you deserve. He's the president people like you deserve and desire I guess. Enjoy. Happy internet trolling & meme hunting.
     
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    Wait? Didn't President Trump multiple times say that Mueller exonerated him?
     
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    You know Trump lies. :eek:
     
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    Okay.

    As long as we both agree that Trump often lies then I think we are on common ground.

    The fact he lies often doesn't surprise me anymore, it is more that people will claim that isn't the case.

    If he lies, but he supports positions you agree with so you vote for him, I can have a certain level of respect for that because it is very honest.
     
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    He better hurry cause there are going to be a SLEW of indictments in 2021.

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