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Astros Re-sign Orlando Palmeiro

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by qwerty, Dec 7, 2004.

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  1. qwerty

    qwerty Contributing Member

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    #1 qwerty, Dec 7, 2004
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    They also signed Russ Springer to a minor league contract.
     
    #2 Castor27, Dec 7, 2004
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    Very interesting signing. Didn't he f**k up during the playoffs?
     
    #3 Rockets34Legend, Dec 8, 2004
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    Naw that would just be the whole bullpen in general...at least anyone not named Brad Lidge (and oh yeah Wheeler).
     
    #4 JunkyardDwg, Dec 8, 2004
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    More like the entire time he was with us.
     
    #5 arkoe, Dec 8, 2004
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    That reminds me, is Wheeler still with us, still on the roster for next year?
     
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    $800k for .240/3/12 is a little much.

    And yep, Springer was a gas can in the playoffs. He was effective during the regular season, though.
     
    #7 SamCassell, Dec 8, 2004
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    It is about $800K too much. There is absolutely no reason to bring this guy back. What does he do? He doesn't hit for average or power. He doesn't play great defense nor have a great arm. He doesn't run fast and steal bases. What is the point? There has to be someone out there via trade, free agent, or in the minors that could be at least as productive for less money.
     
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    I hope we still have Wheeler. I really liked that guys stuff.
     
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    Actually, he had NEGATIVE value with us last year. Because every time he gets a pinch at bat, it takes away one PA from superior hitters like Lamb or Lane. Why this guy gets the first crack with pinch at bats is beyond me.
     
    #10 meh, Dec 8, 2004
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    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    Left-handed bat more valuable than Lane's right in some situations. Better defender than either one. Utility defender, can play more than just OF if necessary. Great eye. Decent speed--better than Lamb or Lane. Less streaky than Lamb. Maybe slightly overpaid, but I think a 1 year deal for an experienced bench player with a team attitude is well-worth it. You'd rather bring up a young guy and hope he learns how to pinch-hit and doesn't have a problem riding the bench?
     
    #11 kaleidosky, Dec 8, 2004
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    Lamb's split in the last 3 years
    (BA/OBP/SLG)

    vs. Lefties .277/.365/.422/.787
    vs. Righties .276/.342/.441/.783

    Lane's split in the last 3 years

    vs. Lefties .308/.376/.596/.972
    vs. Rightes .258/.331/.469/.800

    Palmeiro's split in the last 3 years

    vs. Lefties .257/.330/.287/.617
    vs. Righties .279/.353/.359/.712

    If you want to just take last year, then the OPS against righthanders would be .843 for Lamb, .803 for Lane, and .705 for Palmeiro.

    Hell, you don't even need to use stats to see that Palmeiro is a vastly inferior hitter to Lamb and Lane. Just look at their at bats and it's just blatantly obvious.
     
    #12 meh, Dec 9, 2004
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