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Are we sure Tyrod Taylor isn't the best (potential) option?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Hey Now!, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    Well it would suggest that he can be better than he was his first season here. Perhaps with more time in the system he'd look different. Either way it doesn't matter, right now you can't convince me that if you have either Osweiler or Taylor that you don't have a problem at the QB position so there'd be no reason to pick up someone that would leave you still having a problem at the QB position.

    Either do something that is going to matter or don't bother wasting the cap space.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    The end result is the same, you are tying up multiple seasons in guarantees.....something you were trying to suggest isn't done. If you thought that Tyrod Taylor was an even average QB locking him down for 2 seasons at a below average cap hit would be something you'd jump at. Of course if you think he sucks, it's something you wouldn't want to do.

    Would it really make it different if they were calling it a "signing bonus" that made it to where if one of his legs literally falls off then you'd still be on the hook for the cap hit? Of course not.
     
  3. T for 3

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    I agree that it wouldn't be a fit here necessarily for taylor....but surely brock's mini season in Denver shouldn't be used to compare him to players. His full season of ineptitude here should be the driving comparison. In which case, damn near any QB in the league would be an upgrade
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Neither season is really fair though given that you are comparing a "mini season" in a very QB friendly system he was used to vs a season in a brand new system that is very hard to pick up that he clearly struggled with.

    The Texans have a system that puts a LOT on the QB and even BOB admits that one season isn't enough to pick it up properly. It was the excuse for always targeting people like Hoyer and Mallett. It's also why the idea that someone else is just going to come in and pick it right up is a bit short sighted IMO given that we have very recent precedent of a QB trying to pick up the system and failing horribly leading to him being a MUCH worse QB than he was in his previous season.
     
  5. T for 3

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    I didn't realize anyone was still in the brock camp. If you wan't to put horrendous inaccuracy on the system...well i don't really know what to say to that. If it was the system's fault why was BOB willing to start a guy who had never started in the NFL over a guy with weeks of live game reps in the system (with the season on the line) ?
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    Look it is what it is, I'm not in anyone's camp, I'm just pointing out things for what they are. Osweiler got worse due to being in BOB's system, you can make excuses for it if you like, but it is what it is. The reason Savage looked better was that he's been in the system for a few years and had full command of the offense as opposed to someone who struggled with it. Even then, Savage wasn't very good, he just knew the system better.

    Personally I don't care what is done at QB, I just think that if you aren't going to get someone good there's no point in wasting the cap space. If you got a scrub like Tyrod Taylor you'd just be wasting cap space AND he wouldn't know the system.
     
  7. T for 3

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    I agree with all of that.
    Except that savage's years of mental reps somehow gave him an advantage over brock's full season of live reps. Savage was worse than Brock. My point is, BOB was willing to do anything because Brock was so damn bad, he even thought a guy who had never played could be better. That's more than a learning curve problem.
     
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    To be fair, BTG has openly used Mallet as a "terrible acquisition" we have made lately instead of Hoyer, let's not bring him back up as liking. And I'm not even going to touch the "white" comment. There has only been one person on this board that has repeatedly used race in their pushing for or against a certain player and it wasn't for white players. I don't think Teddy or Tyrod are the answer here even fully healthy. Does that make me racist?

    I would consider Taylor as being better than Brock, but not worth getting him over here. Go for Romo, draft, or just stick it out. I don't want Jimmy G or Taylor. No one has even mentioned (I don't think) how much Taylor is the opposite of a BOB QB. Even Russell Wilson who I think is what Taylor is more like just not as good. BOB wants a pocket passer, it would be good if they could extend plays, but Taylor relies on feet too much.
     
  9. Bennie Anders

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    McEnron will never have a black quarterback.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    HardenTime faints
     
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  12. bigtexxx

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    ultimate smack down

    Realist, you've been PWN3D!!!
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Well I'm glad BTG admitted he was wrong about Mallet

    Now he just needs to agree he was wrong about osweiler too

    But at this point, he's been spectacularly wrong twice, why listen to him about tyrod?
     
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    Haha fair point, but I just don't like Tyrod on my own. He's an extremely poor man's Russel Wilson, and he had a similarly built team in Buffalo and couldnt do much. I agree he would be better than Brock, but that can't be our deciding factor, otherwise go grab Cody Kessler. (Obviously a joke guys).
     
  15. juicystream

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    I think Tyrod will be too expensive. Romo might take less to win, but it is doubtful Taylor would at this point in his career (you've got to get paid while you can).

    I'd think JimmyG is the most likely, since he is affordable for next season.
     
  16. leroy

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    Do you really believe this? If so, why?

    I've seen more than once now that Alex Smith might be on the way out of KC (this article is predicting the release him and sign Romo). He'd be a moderately priced, experienced option that could still be a bridge to a potential draft pick. He's protective of the ball and mobile. He's won a bunch of games, though his playoff success isn't good (through little fault of his own as he's performed fairly well).
     
  17. TheRealist137

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    Sadly, you haven't been following along the conversation. I never claimed Taylor was a top 10 QB, I said statistically he was. I also asked BTG to name 10 QBs he thought were better than Taylor because I wasn't sure if he could even name 10 QBs that he hasn't been overly critical of one time or another.

    bigtexxx, PWN3D for lack of reading comprehension.
     
  18. buffalobills!!!

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    Yes. Tyrod is not good enough.
     
    #58 buffalobills!!!, Feb 23, 2017
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  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Just give it up kiddo, you embarrassed yourself. It's okay, it happens all the time. You tried to make the case that a kid who has never been a top 20 QB is a top 10 QB because you don't know football. It happens. I'm sure you'll do something almost as bad as that again within the next month or two.
     
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    One of the dumbest posts I have ever seen.
     
    #60 buffalobills!!!, Feb 23, 2017
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