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Any 85% + FT shooter you'd also consider an elite level defender?

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  1. likestohypeguy

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    In NBA history, any position.
     
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    Joe Dumar have a 84.3% career free throw percentage. Do you consider Klay a elite defender?
     
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  3. YOLO

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    obviously kawhi leonard
     
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  4. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Kawhi Leonard

    84.7% for the career. Will be at 85% + by the end of next season
     
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    Paul George

    Exactly 85% for his career
     
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    Chris Paul. Larry Bird (when he could move around). Paul George. Jack Sikma.

    Sikma would be such an awesome player in this era. The original stretch 5. Dude shot 92% from FT once. He would have developed into a 40% 3 point shooter in this era.
     
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    bird was NEVER considered an elite defender

    Rocket River
     
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  8. likestohypeguy

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    They're almost competing skills, there's so few that were truly elite at both.

    I didn't realize Kawhi's FT% had increased over 10 percentage points throughout his career- from 77.3% to 88% in only six years. They used to show FT% graphic on TV more often when they were at the line, less so now. Anyway he might end up being the "best all time defender with >85% ft career shooting", more to the point.
     
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    He's crazy underrated defensively. He led the league in defensive win shares four years and is a career +2.5 in DBPM. He also made three All-defensive second teams. He might not have been the quickest laterally (although he actually was pretty quick earlier in his career) but he was so smart and always in the right position and had quick hands to get a lot of steals. He was also a great defensive rebounder which is part of defense.
     
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    Terrell Brandon.
     
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    Are you just looking at stats or did you watch him play? Because I know I was either not born or too young for a majority of his career.
     
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    Yao Ming shot over 85% his last 4 seasons.
     
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    Chauncey Billups

    Inb4 holic says Wicky Wubio
     
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    He cannot shoot except for FTs. He is a good defender doe.
     
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    Not many elite defenders can make a good scorer score 5 or 6 unless they quit like Harden.
     
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    That's the old narrative that was perpetuated at the time that Bird was an all-league defender. NO Way! He was voted 2nd team all defense but I never saw him lock anyone down, especially not the elite scorers like King, Wilkins, Erving or Jordan. The Celtics had excellent size up front which clogged the lane. Any statistic that tells you that Bird was a great individual defender should be disregarded.
     
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    Jordan was close he was 83.5%
     
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    mario elie
     
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  20. DMO (DJ remix)

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    Bird not elite defender, the good ol' days, now youngins these days..
     
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