1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Another terrible jobs number

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Sep 7, 2012.

Tags:
  1. mc mark

    mc mark Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    468
    It was completely a republican idea. What planet are you freaks from?
     
  2. mc mark

    mc mark Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    468
    Republicans do not deserve to be elected this year. sorry
     
  3. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2003
    Messages:
    47,461
    Likes Received:
    17,151
    Just because Congressional Republicans (who decided to oppose anything and everything Obama did from Day 1 in office) did not support it does not mean it is was not a "Republican plan". This was the conservative health plan from 1993, which was adopted by your freaking nominee for President as governor of Massachusetts.

    What kind of person can look people in the face and say these things? 2+2=5? Black is white? Up is down? Are these sort of nonsensical lies and gibberish the symptoms of Obama-derangement-syndrome? Someone get this man a long-form birth certificate, stat!
     
  4. gwayneco

    gwayneco Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2000
    Messages:
    3,459
    Likes Received:
    36
    "If I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition."

    The Messiah,
    Barack Hussein Obama

    February 3, 2009
     
  5. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2002
    Messages:
    14,279
    Likes Received:
    5,237
    Fewer Americans have jobs today than when Obama took office almost 4 years ago. That's a cold, hard fact. The reason that it's even worse than it sounds is that this is despite the stimulus, despite almost 0% interest rates, and despite an explosion of deficit spending greater than any government in the history of mankind. Obama's anti-business policies have failed our country.

    How sad is it for a father to have to return back to his family after being laid off at work? Imagine that happening over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again because of Barack Obama's disastrous policies. It's a shame, but the good news is that help could be around the corner if we elect Romney, a successful businessman with an extraordinary track record of creating jobs.
     
  6. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,503
    Likes Received:
    54,437
    In July 2009, a series of bills were approved by committees within the House of Representatives.[126] Beginning June 17, 2009, and extending through September 14, 2009, three Democratic and three Republican Senate Finance Committee Members met for a series of 31 meetings to discuss the development of a health care reform bill. Over the course of the next three months, this group, Senators Max Baucus (D-Montana), Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), Kent Conrad (D-North Dakota), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), Jeff Bingaman (D-New Mexico), and Mike Enzi (R-Wyoming), met for more than 60 hours, and the principles that they discussed became the foundation of the Senate's health care reform bill.[127] The meetings were held in public and broadcast by C-SPAN and can be seen on the C-SPAN web site[128] or at the Committee's own web site.[129]
    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act

    Grassley took credit for the input he had into the bill:

    "The health-care legislation signed into law yesterday includes provisions Grassley co-authored to impose standards for the tax exemption of charitable hospitals for the first time," he said. "The provisions enacted in the new health-care law are the result of Grassley's leadership on tax-exempt organizations' accountability and transparency, including hospitals."
    Source: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/03/chuck-grassley-touts-provision.html


    The Senate bill, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, bore similarities to prior healthcare reform proposals introduced by Republicans. In 1993 Senator John Chafee introduced the Health Equity and Access Reform Today Act which contained a "Universal Coverage" requirement with a penalty for non-compliance.[139][140] Advocates for the 1993 bill which contained the "individual mandate" included prominent Republicans who today oppose the mandate, namely Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Charles Grassley (R-IA), Robert Bennett (R-UT), and Christopher Bond (R-MO).[141] In 1994 Senator Don Nickles introduced the Consumer Choice Health Security Act which also contained an individual mandate with a penalty provision.[142] However, Nickles removed the mandate from the act shortly after introduction, stating that they had decided "that government should not compel people to buy health insurance."[143] Many experts of healthcare policy have pointed out that the "individual mandate" requirement to buy health insurance was contained in many previous Republican/conservative proposals for healthcare legislation, going back as far as 1989.[144] Other experts have pointed out that the healthcare legislation that emerged from Congress in 2009 and 2010 is patterned, largely, after former Republican Governor of Massachusetts Mitt Romney's state healthcare plan which also contains the individual mandate.[145]
    Souce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act
     
  7. mc mark

    mc mark Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    468
    Enough progress has been made that President Obama deserves another 4 years.
     
  8. mc mark

    mc mark Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    468
    When you hemorrhage 750,000 jobs a month in the last six months of the Bush presidency and 4.5 million jobs total, kind of hard to make that up.
     
    #88 mc mark, Sep 7, 2012
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2012
  9. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    58,937
    Likes Received:
    36,497
    Gweenie, As he told all y'all b-tches last night, he's not "The Messiah", not just "a candidate" - rather, he is "The President" - please reference him as such in future communications.
     
  10. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,914
    We should probably focus less on Obama and more on the alternative.

    If you aren't happy with Obama, fine. Unfortunately conservative ideas have proven they just don't work and are downright dangerous to financial stability. Unless another alternative arises, its Obama by default.

    Thats just the reality.
     
  11. LonghornFan

    LonghornFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2002
    Messages:
    15,711
    Likes Received:
    2,623
    Cute. How did you memorize that whole Romney campaign commercial though?
     
  12. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    54,294
    Likes Received:
    113,099
    What ideas or plans?

    The only reason the Dems and Obama are in a position to retain the White House is that the Republican are completely devoid or ideas or vision.
     
  13. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2002
    Messages:
    14,279
    Likes Received:
    5,237
    We're not talking about Bush's last 6 months, we're starting from when Obama took office. Fewer Americans today have jobs than when he took office. This is on his watch.
     
  14. mc mark

    mc mark Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    468
    Mr Obama has created more jobs in 3 1/2 years than bush did in 8. That my friend is a fact
     
  15. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2003
    Messages:
    47,461
    Likes Received:
    17,151
    [​IMG]
     
    1 person likes this.
  16. djohn2o12

    djohn2o12 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2009
    Messages:
    1,043
    Likes Received:
    35
    How many jobs has congress created? What is their plan other than to obstruct?
     
  17. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2002
    Messages:
    14,279
    Likes Received:
    5,237
    I don't think you understand -- there are FEWER jobs today than when Obama took office. Fewer. And Bush's jobs record had to fight through the popping of Clinton's internet bubble, 9-11 and the resulting global recession, and then of course the housing crisis that the liberals created by forcing banks to lend to unqualified borrowers. Despite that, unemployment under Bush was very very low, much lower than under Obama. ...but those are just the facts...
     
    1 person likes this.
  18. gwayneco

    gwayneco Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2000
    Messages:
    3,459
    Likes Received:
    36
    WTF??????????????????????????

    What are the Democrats' ideas?
     
  19. Blake

    Blake Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2003
    Messages:
    9,872
    Likes Received:
    2,837
    Lulz at all of you blaming a president for the state of the economy.
     
  20. gwayneco

    gwayneco Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2000
    Messages:
    3,459
    Likes Received:
    36
    Yeah, Barack Obama and his libtard minions never blamed George W. Bush for the economy. That just never, ever, freakin' happened.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now