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Another terrible jobs number

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Sep 7, 2012.

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  1. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Are you fimiliar with the fillibuster? Unfortunately I understand why you may not as education is not a high priority with you fellas. And this is another example of why it's pointless to engage any of you trolls. You have nothing to offer but nonsense.
     
  2. across110thstreet

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    who brought up the President's race again? and all the b****ing and moaning about people playing the good old race card.

    resort to insults... blah blah blah. lost the argument
     
  3. LonghornFan

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    Careful there 110, he might take time out from hunting down Thadeus to fight you as well. Words on a screen hurt this pitiful boy.
     
  4. CrazyDave

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    When the troll trial begins, this will be obvious evidence. Republicans stated 2 years ago what their 'number one goal' was... and guess what... it wasn't creating jobs or working with the executive branch.

    Their own self-important shortsightedness and lack of cooperation will be their undoing, causing them to fail their 'number one goal.' Stating that the problem is all on "the other side" while embracing the disposition that they have for the past two years is blatantly preposterous.

    At this point I can only wonder.... what was their number two goal? Because the way things are going, it looks like it is going to turn into "Make sure he is ineffective for the next four years that we had bet all of our credibility on avoiding." I wish the goals had been more lofty and practical for the nation. Sadly they were only concerned with 'winning.'
     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    Looking at this politically the economy particularly unemployment is the best line of attack for the Romney Ryan ticket.

    One of the my big annoyances with the RNC and much of their rhetoric is their need to, putting it nicely, shading the truth about Medicare, welfare work requirements, and that Romney thought insurance mandates was a good enough idea he implemented it. To me that shows a weakness in their campaign that they can't just rely on focusing on the economy that they have to resort to factually inaccurate arguments to support their case.
     
  6. gwayneco

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    You and your boy have nothing to offer but 43 straight months of 8% unemployment.
     
  7. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    Do you have any substantive excuse for or response to the unprecedented Congressional gridlock by the Republicans?
     
  8. gwayneco

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    Nonfarm payrolls increased by only 96,000 in August, the Labor Department said, versus expectations of 125,000 jobs or more. The manufacturing sector, much touted by the president in his convention speech, lost 15,000 jobs.

    – Since the start of the year, job growth has averaged 139,000 per month vs. an average monthly gain of 153,000 in 2011.

    – As the chart at the top shows, the unemployment rate remains far above the rate predicted by Team Obama if Congress passed the stimulus. (This is the Romer-Bernstein chart.)

    – While the unemployment rate dropped to 8.1% from 8.3% in July, it was due to a big drop in the labor force participation rate (the share of Americans with a job or looking for one). If fewer Americans hadn’t given up looking for work, the unemployment rate would have risen.

    – Reuters notes that the participation rate is now at its lowest level since September 1981.

    – If the labor force participation rate was the same as when Obama took office in January 2009, the unemployment rate would be 11.2%.

    – If the participation rate had just stayed the same as last month, the unemployment rate would be 8.4%.


    The Labor Department also said that 41,000 fewer jobs were created in June and July than previously reported. The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for June was revised from 64,000 to 45,000, and the change for July was revised from 163,000 to 141,000.

    – The broader U-6 unemployment rate, which includes part-time workers who want full-time work, is at 14.7%.

    – The employment-population ratio is perhaps the broadest measure of the health of the labor market. It just shows how many Americans — not in the military or in prison — as a share of the population actually have some sort of a job. That number fell last month to 58.3%, just off its Great Recession lows.

    Each month, The Hamilton Project examines the “jobs gap” — the number of jobs that the U.S. economy needs to create in order to return to pre-recession employment levels while also absorbing the people who enter the labor force each month. If we added 96,000 jobs every month, we would not close the jobs gap until after 2025, as this chart shows.

    The average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls was unchanged at 34.4 hours in August. The manufacturing workweek declined by 0.2 hour to 40.5 hours, and factory overtime was unchanged at 3.2 hours.

    – The average workweek for production and nonsupervisory employees on private nonfarm payrolls was unchanged at 33.7 hours.

    – In August, average hourly earnings for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls edged down by 1 cent to $23.52. Over the past 12 months, average hourly earnings rose by just 1.7 percent.

    – In August, average hourly earnings of private-sector production and nonsupervisory employees edged down by 1 cent to $19.75.

    Again, a terribly anemic report that shows a stagnant economy — not one ready to boom.


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  9. gwayneco

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    Another lame ass excuse. Clinton worked with a Republican controlled House.
     
  10. DonnyMost

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    I see you've doubled down on fingers-in-the-ears.

    Fair enough. Enjoy your alternate reality.
     
  11. Rocketman95

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    I hope for his sake they have pie there.
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! You combined "liberal" with "r****d" to Use as an insulting label! Because that is funny. To use the clinical term for people with a serious mental disability as an insult for other people with different political views. You are a BIG man! When you are in public and see a person with an obvious disability do you go up behind them and start mimicking/mocking them to try to get a laugh? You know, like some really stupid middle school boys do? That would be sooooooo AWESOME! I bet more people would like you and think you are cool.
     
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    The Unemployment picture is terrible. Though the economy is multi-faceted and a President only can influence and not change the outcomes, this President really doesn't inspire confidence and been a detractor as opposed to an enabler of employers in the US.

    Time for a Change.
     
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    How about the gridlock from the president? or the dems? I don't see them accepting Republican ideas. Takes two to tango.
     
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    ACA?? It is fairly difficult to accept Republican ideas when they either don't have a plan or the plans they do have they abandon as soon as the Democrats start to think that it is a good idea. To extend your metaphor - Sure it takes two to tango, but if one doesn't want to Tango at all, then no matter how much the other one wants to Tango, ain't no one tangoing.
     
  16. DonnyMost

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    I see you're an inhabitant of gwayneco's alternate reality, too!

    [​IMG]
     
  17. tallanvor

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    Not a republican plan. Republicans did not get to provide input in the healthcare debate.

    Tell me one Republican supported plan that Obama has accepted that Obama thought was a bad idea.
     
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  18. gwayneco

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    Reagan had a Democratic House when he ran for re-election in 1984. Clinton had a Republican House in 1996. Bush had a Democratic Senate (iirc) in 2004. Nixon had a Democratic House (and maybe a Senate too - don't know off hand.) In short, divided government is fairly typical in American politics and it's a lame excuse for an incumbent.

    Besides, are you telling me a planet healin', ocean rise stoppin' rock star can't out-maneuver Cryin' John Boehner?
     
  19. bigtexxx

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    agreed
     
  20. gifford1967

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    He did. That's how the ACA was passed. Something, you should drop to your knees and give thanks for, as you will need it to deal with your various obesity-related illnesses.
     
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