MY understanding is he used an illegal magazine (more than 10 rounds), so laws did exist to try and stop him, they just didn't work. Its early though and reporting could be wrong.
Did you try calling people horrible names and telling them they have blood on their hands? maybe then they will support your ideas. Maybe you just aren't compelling and nobody is convinced your solutions would really solve anything.
Hmm... speaking of strawman. Where in what I posed above did call anyone names or tell them they had "blood on their hands". Which again, brings back the statement: "No, we shouldn't look at any possible solutions, much better to simply do nothing but offer thoughts and prayers" that you initially reacted to. Instead, you could focus on the possible solutions suggested, many of which have been suggested by law enforcement as a way to help them do their jobs (and in some cases, better protect LEOs).
There's no need to get in long multi-page back and forth debates. This stuff is just common sense. Most other 1st world countries don't have these problems. Many many things in our own country require meaningfully more checks and balances to get stuff or be accepted for stuff. Again, this is just common sense stuff. America has a gun culture problem that has been borne out of as lax and laissez faire an approach to gun laws as possible, fed by political lobbying and other political shenanigans (like gerry-mandering), fed by constitutionalist-esque hanging on to an amendment which gun lovers argue can't be change (despite itself being an amendment), etc, etc. One can continue to bury their head in the sand and pretend there isn't a problem if they wish. Like has been done with climate change. Or rights for homosexuals or other sexual preference people. That's your or whomever's prerogative. I'll just stand by the obvious.
I know that you are joking, but... I just want to say, my wife works in an ER as nurse working nights. Until last year they had no armed security (and only changed thanks to her request after incidents), only their in house security that isn't allowed to touch the patients. Now they have one police officer at night like they always had for days.
Sadly, this is the world we live in, and nothing is going to change. You would think the vegas massacre or all the school shootings would be enough to spark something, but nope. So until then, thoughts and prayers.
whats the 'common sense' gun law that would of stopped this and why hasn't California , which has the strictest gun laws in the country, implemented it yet? Isn't the whole reason for having this thread in the debate and discussion forum to discuss possible solutions? I wonder if GROs could of helped, but i think Cali has those. Maybe looser red flaw laws.
The law making it illegal is held up in courts and an injunction was given to prevent it from going into effect.
What are the chances that this is another MAGA terrorist? Trumps MAGA boys are the biggest terrorist threat right now in America
Tragic.Thousand oaks is like the Woodlands or Katy of LA. Very safe. Hearing the shooter was an a former marine and used a handgun, not semi, so not sure gun laws could have stopped him. It's a mentality issue with toxic male mentalities all over country. Need to be taught what's right and wrong by male figures in their lives and at school, not the stupid internet. Internet gives fuel to these idiots.
