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Amick: Rockets pushing to trade for Iggy, hope to sign Chandler, no longer working to extend coach

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by justtxyank, Jul 12, 2019.

  1. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    The problem with Covington is that he is way more valuable than Iggy
     
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    If it’s possible, I’d much prefer Robert Covington over Iguodala.

    Since Russ isn’t a great 3-point shooter, I think it makes sense to get a 3 and D guy like Covington instead of another poor shooter from 3 like Iguodala.

    But if that’s not realistic than I guess you have to take what you can get.
     
  3. JoeBarelyCares

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    If we include Iggy in the OKC trade as a three way, Shump's salary would only need to be around $7.5 million. Much more palatable for Memphis, especially if we throw in cash and a 2nd rounder.
     
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    These sound like Tilman family moves. Surrounding Westbrook with a wing and a C who can't shoot goes against Morey's obvious dream of having 5 players who can shoot.

    I really hope we don't promise Chandler guaranteed minutes, unless we are trading Capela. A 5 who can shoot is imperative at this point. You simply can not win in the NBA when 2 of your starting 5 can't shoot (unless of course you have 3 of the top 10 players in the NBA next to them).

    The other issue of course is someone like Kevin Love can not play the 4 in this day and age of lighting-fast PF's and could never protect the rim either.

    I'm glad Tilman pushed the WB trade because it is a marginal improvement, but in general the idea of an owner and his son getting that involved is the beginning of the end of franchises.
     
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    Absolutely, and especially to us. We may need to lower our sights. I'm a bit concerned about shelling out a ton of greenbacks for Iggy, though. He was an impact player last year in the playoffs, for sure, but I'd rather get someone younger who's a better shooter. That's in a perfect world (which has never existed). Iggy would be a good addition. Hopefully, he can keep his body together if we baby him during the season. If we get him, of course.

    I'm still processing the Westbrook trade. One thing, though, is clear. Morey still has work to do. I'm hoping it doesn't take until mid-season. It might.
     
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    I read (I think from the Athletic?) that he was really upset at not getting more playing time in the playoffs, and that he's as good as gone. No one has signed him yet though.
     
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    Still thinking about the Westbrook deal. We really need another lights out shooter now. One thing Russell does extremely well is passing to shooters for treys. He finds them. He had "an of NBA-high 802 passes that led directly to a 3-point attempt this past season." Since he's mediocre at hitting those shots himself, we need to surround him with as many good shooters as we can. We have some, but we need more on the bench.

    I suspect he'll have a role similar to the one CP3 had of playing a significant amount of time with the second unit. When he drives, and he drives a hell of a lot, he needs those shooters to dish to. We need to beef up the rotation in that department. Iggy is average at best from three, at least he was the last couple of seasons for Oakland. Rivers and Green are decidedly hot and cold. We need consistency. We have Eric, but is House ready for the big time? The jury is out. Am I forgetting someone? I don't think so, not a rotation player.

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    Is our 2021 first tradeable? I know its part of the pick swap which makes it less valuable but we can still trade it right? I don't hate giving that up for Iggy.

    I dont want to give up our 2022 pick. Thats potentially the draft that has high school players and one and dones, it could be a really deep draft. Not giving up that pick in the Westbrook trade was almost certainly a conscious decision.
     
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    It's not something to count on, but Gary Clark was a solid 3 shooter in college. Hopefully he can develop some and at least give us some ok back-up 4 minutes.
     
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    He was the best Harden defender on GS in our series. He held Kawhi, who shot nearly 50% in the playoffs, to 37% shooting and -11.2 player pts differential. He came up huge in the most important games of every series in the playoffs.
     
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    I think Clark might have a future, but we need a reliable vet. We don't have a really wide window. Unlike James, a crafty S.O.B., Westbrook relies one hell of a lot on his athleticism.
     
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    Short team ... and old...and injury prone.

    Use Shump SnT for Covington instead. Sign JSimmons and Yabusele to vet mins.

    Russ/Rivers
    Harden/EGo
    Tucker/JSimmons
    RoCo/House/Clark
    Capela/Yabusele/Hartenstein

    Longer, younger, more explosive, better 3 ball.
     
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    If we can get him. He's still money from downtown, and one thing he'd have here is open shots. He isn't terribly expensive at this point in his career, either.
     
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    What little he had on defense is gone.
     
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    Covington is going require a lot more assets to get than Igoudala. He's on a great contract and arguably Minnesota's best trade asset outside of KAT. I don't see why they trade him unless its a package for a star, or if they are rebuilding, in which case they will want assets we don't have.
     
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    Sometimes you can't have everything. He's never been much of a defender, anyway. Ideally, we'd get a defensive specialist as well. I'd much rather get a guy that's good at both. There aren't as many of those around as there were earlier.
     
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    If they trade Capela, EG, or PJ for old a$$ Igoudala (who I love actually), I'm going to flip. Capela especially now with having two penetrating guards who get to the free throw line, having Capela there to rim run is crucial. Old a$$ Chandler also cannot just replace what he does. It's insane that this is even considered at this point.
     
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    He's reportedly on trade block and it may have to do with previous injury, maybe even dissatisfaction.

    If Morey/Tilman are swinging for the fences then this is the trade to make. Not a safe trade of another player on tail end of career.

    I love Iggy especially his IQ and defense but he is not a window extender.

    Remember how excited we all were for Iso Joe? Fool me once, shame on me ...
     
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    Koufos does not play defense and has no vertical game.

    He also is not a very strong rebounder.
     
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