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A city that deserves a NFL team

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by UtilityPlayer, Jan 14, 2014.

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  1. UtilityPlayer

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    Vancouver , Portland , LA ,Salt Lake City, Mexico City,
     
  2. Dairy Ashford

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    I think San Antonio could prove to be a disappointment. For some reason it feels like they would have already had a baseball team if they really had the dollars and density/fans to support major league sports. Another thing to consider for a lot of these smaller cities is radio market, they could be at too severe a disadvantage for the NFL to be interested.

    Utlimately I think the League needs to start commissioning studies and working with the state and casinos to draft franchise-specific policies that would allow for a team in Vegas. Otherwise, they should probably feel justified in not expanding for another 25 years, if ever.
     
  3. Brando2101

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    They should never expand. The scheduling system is perfect with 32 teams and 16 games. There is only one place the NFL wants a team and it is LA. SA is a small TV market and a team would battle the cowboys for a decade.
     
  4. LoganRoxFan

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    I have no doubt that the Salt Lake area could support a NFL franchise, but it will never happen unless the NFL approved Utah home games on Saturday. BYU, Utah, and Utah State can bring in 130,000 fans for their Saturday home games combined so I know there's enough people in this area to support a NFL team. It's just a mormon thing and Sunday home games wouldn't work.
     
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    Not a question of people supporting the team on Sunday/Saturday... its media market size (SLC = #33), its having stadium-generating revenue based on # of fortune 500 companies, its having a large enough fan base to support teams well even when they suck.

    And yes, there wouldn't be a way to play only games on Saturdays.
     
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    Some how, the jazz have played on Sundays before.
     
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    I was bored last summer so I decided to expand the league by eight teams. Add one team per division.

    The cities were

    Los Angeles
    Portland
    Vancouver
    Mexico City
    Toronto
    Montreal
    Orlando
    San Antonio

    In this scenario, LA has two teams because Jacksonville relocated.

    Orlando joined the AFC south. Mexico City joined the NFC east and Toronto joined the AFC east. San Antonio joined the NFC south.

    The LA jaguars now pronounced the hag wars, or however they say it in Spanish moves to the Nfc west and St. Louis is now in the AFC south.


    The other teams, I forgot how i put them as I am doing this from memory on my phone.
     
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    Does it make sense to Add Mexico City to the NFC East? Seems like it makes more sense to move San Antonio so they are in the same division as dallas and Mexico City to the South. #slownewsday
     
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    Dallas isn't an east coast team either.


    But the thinking is that all the teams are major metropolitans.

    And people just love the NFC east.
     
  10. Brando2101

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    Dallas will NEVER leave the NFC east. They should have gone to the NFC South in 2002 and Carolina should have gone to the east since they are close to Washington. Considering that, San Antonio would be an instant rival to Dallas. Mexico City wouldn't have a rivalry with anyone.

    I tried to keep existing teams moving to a minimum. Obviously there is a lot that can be done if it was all re-done.

    NFC North
    Green Bay
    Minnesota
    Detroit
    Chicago
    Vancover


    NFC East
    Dallas
    Washington
    Philly
    New York Giants
    San Antonio


    NFC South
    Tampa Bay
    New Orleans
    Carolina
    Atlanta
    St. Louis



    NFC West
    Seattle
    San Fransisco
    Arizona
    Portland
    LA Expansion


    AFC North
    Cincinnati
    Cleveland
    Baltimore
    Pittsburgh
    Montreal


    AFC East
    New England
    Miami
    Buffalo
    New York Jets
    Toronto


    AFC South
    Indy
    Houston
    Orlando
    Tennesse
    Mexico City


    AFC West
    Kansas City
    Oakland
    San Diego
    Denver
    Los Angeles Jags


    In terms of real changes that could happen: Jax moves to LA. That would bump Kansas City out of the West. KC would just move to the AFC south. Raiders moving to LA is easy as well but I don't know if they want two LA teams in the same conference. Seattle could always come back to the AFC and the LA Raiders can move to the NFC West.
     
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    Los Angeles is the best answer, but Texas needs another NFL team and more "big 4" sports overall. California has 15/38 (#teams/mil-population) while Texas has 8/26. Subpar ratio. Florida is 9/20!!!! Embarrassing. Texas needs to do better.
     
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    6>10?

    True and it's sickening. Houston sports does suck though TBH.

    SLC is a decent area to live, but 1.5 million pop with 2 major sports might be stretch.
     
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    Just make a new league and start a bidding war with draftees. Although, frankly, these cities should probably try to form a soccer federation with Latin American leagues.
     
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    Portland should have a team.
     
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    The last Sunday home regular season game for the Jazz was Jan 21, 2001. Since then, the Jazz have averaged ~5 Sunday road games a season. They did have two home playoff games though in 2008 and 2010. Prior to that season they had roughly 1 or so home sunday games a season.

    The reported attendance of the playoff games were sellouts and the regular season game was near full capacity.

    --www.basketball-reference.com

    The Jazz Organization stance is:
    In other words, SLC is out.
     
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    Forget NFL, I hope the Expos return to Montreal.

    1994 Champs
     
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    No one else is getting a team until LA has at least 1...if not 2. I still expect the Chargers and/or Jags to be in LA at some point in the not to distant future.
     
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    Despite what most of the country thinks, it will not be the Jaguars.

    The Jaguars have not been that bad in attendance having ranked #21, #24, and #20 during the 2010-2012 seasons. Yes in 2013, they did drop in total home attendance to #28 (which happens when you start 0-8 and are panned as potentially the worst team in NFL history), but they're season ticket numbers actually went up. Over the past 5-10 years, the Jaguars have actually had higher percentages and total home attendance both of the other NFL teams in Florida.

    With finally getting a new QB (Teddy or Manziel) and the team playing better, the attendance will only go up.

    Jacksonville's media market is not even the worst of the nations NFL cities (that is Buffalo), and it has more Fortune 500 companies than many other NFL cities. Jacksonville is still growing fast as well with a number of companies starting satellite headquarters here.

    Lastly, the Jaguars lease end in 2030 and would require the team to pay whatever is left on the lease as a lump sum to break the least. That comes to just short of $100 million right now. Also, with already approved upgrades to Everbank Field, that penalty will be getting worse as a new lease agreement is being drawn up.

    So please don't jump on the idiotic ESPN talking point of "the Jaguars soon to leave the city."
     
  20. txppratt

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    salt lake city.

    the whole state of utah would go ape **** for an NFL franchise and they'd have no problem on sundays.
     

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