Agreed - that's part of the "hassle" aspect I was thinking of. There's the exit fees along with the resistance to leaving a conference, the comfort of your current rivals/schedules, etc. No idea how that will all weigh out in the end.
ralphDrussoAP Ralph D. Russo AD not in Big 12 told me Mizzou should publicly flirt with SEC to get B1G's attention. STL is B1G mrkt. Does B1G want SEC in its territory? This is why SEC seems so weird to me. Yeah, parts of south Mizzou may feel more like SEC country...but the market in play here is St. Louis, which, along with Chicago, defines the Midwest.
For anyone curious on the general opinion of the Mizzou athletics community on the move, take a look at tweets from Kim English (star player on basketball team) in the past 30 minutes. Entertaining, if nothing else. http://twitter.com/#!/Englishscope24
So Neinas confirms that Deaton recused himself from a portion of the Big XII teleconference on the advice of lawyers ... Very telling sign IMO
You're right. They won. My mistake. But winning one conference USA title isn't going to turn many heads especially with 4 losses on the season. The programs that broke through that non BCS conference barrier did well year after year. Utah finished with 10 wins in 5 out of 8 years including 2 undefeated seasons. TCU finished with 10 wins in 7 out of 9 seasons including a couple 1 loss seasons and an undefeated seasons. The other option is to be a team that capitalizes on the Big East raids like in 2003 and now. Again, be the best in your conference year in and out. You will look like a valuable team for a BCS conference and build your stadium. Do those things first. If they just need naming rights, why haven't they announced it? 20 million is a lot of money. Build it first then bigger conferences will see the appeal. At least get a shovel into the ground. That might be enough. There is no way UH looks at Reliant as a permanent home. They would get a horrible chunk of revenue especially considering Reliant regularly schedules concerts and other events on Saturdays. I'm sure there would be quite an expense to supplant those events when there is no real chance they fill up the stadium for most of the games. Have they ever scheduled a college game there the day before a Texans game?
That's all well and good, but as we've seen already, the winning percentage of a program isn't exactly the driving force behind this. Otherwise, why did the SEC want A&M? Not exactly world beaters, you know. Winning is a liability for a non-BCS team looking to join a BCS conference, just ask Boise State. Because they haven't finalized it yet? You just spoke to highly about adding USF, that plays their games at a pro stadium. And UH was a 30 year member of the SWC playing at a pro stadium. What makes you so sure? Concerts and events on Saturdays, in the fall? Wtf? You know the rodeo is during the Spring, right? Scheduling isn't an issue, they work that stuff out months, if not years, in advance. And they wouldn't lose money, because UH pays them to rent the building/facilities. Reliant gets their money whether or not people show up. It would be UH that would be taking the risk.
A lot of noise about WVU going to the SEC on the interwebs. (which would imply Missouri officially turns them down)
SEC should wait instead of taking WVU. Makes no sense unless they consider having 13 teams unworkable.
ChuckCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton For everyone wondering why a school would want to join the Big 12, consider the revenue from new Fox cable & upcoming network deal in '15. ChuckCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton What does Tier 1 and Tier 2 revenue sharing mean in the Big 12? For 2011-12, based on 10 members, it would be $17M per school. ChuckCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton Big 12 revenue will increase significantly for '12-13 when the $1.17B Fox deal begins. (There is a bit of Fox bonus kicker this season). kCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton Darn close. RT @AaronDickens: @ChuckCarltonDMN So in 2012-13, when the new Fox deal kicks in, each school should be over $20 million. Right? ChuckCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton SEC revenue distribution for 2010-11 was about $18.3M. RT @DDominy: @ChuckCarltonDMN How much is A&M going to get next year in the SEC? ChuckCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton Interim Big 12 commish Chuck Neinas indicated expansion committee would meet this week. Still haven't decided on a target number. ChuckCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton For those expecting clarity Tuesday at Missouri , remember A&M and OU authorizing presidents to pursue conf. alignment. Good bet at Mizzou.
I'm not sure these numbers are right. Here's the breakdown of TV contracts by conference: http://businessofcollegesports.com/2011/05/05/televison-contract-breakdown/ If there are 10 Big12 members, that would be an average of $15MM / yr. Even if you assume some progression in the ESPN contract with later years being worth more than early years, there's no way to get to $20MM, especially if the Fox deal also has that progression (since we're in the early years there). That said, the number should go up when the Tier 1 contract is redone in 2016 - though that's also the case for the BigEast next year, the Big10 in 2016, and the SEC if they are able to re-open their TV deal. It's clear that the Big12 deal will always outpace the Big East, so there's no question Big East teams would want to join - they are unstable as is and would get more money. But Big12 money isn't likely to rival the Big10 or SEC in the long-term, and it won't match the Pac12 once their Pac12 Network is up.
http://twitter.com/#!/FootballBYU FootballBYU Byu Football Wednesday at 4pm... Byu football embarks on yet another journey #Big12 FootballBYU Byu Football Sources saying BYU scheduling announcement for this Wednesday regarding Big 12. New media revenue sharing plan a game changer for Cougars
Deaton given authority to explore conference affiliation. Deaton says he has relinquished role as chair of BIg 12 board of directors. I think they're gone. We'll see.
Apparently, we're going to drag this out some more... ChipBrownOB Chip Brown Mizzou officials say they can't give a timetable for when they'll have a decision about their future conference plans. 2 minutes ago ChipBrownOB Chip Brown Brady Deaton has resigned his position of chair of the Big 12 Board of Directors. 5 minutes ago ChipBrownOB Chip Brown Mizzou interim president says B12 asking for long-term irrevocable commitment, but MU wants to explore options.
Texas apparently not in much of a negotiating mood... http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1274491 The Missouri Board of Curators formally delegated the authority to chancellor Brady Deaton to explore conference affiliation for the Tigers Tuesday evening. Deaton also announced he has resigned his post as chair of the Big 12 Board of Directors to avoid a conflict of interest. (Obviously, the Big 12 is looking to expand, and Mizzou is looking at possibly leaving the Big 12). But two sources close to the situation said a deal was nearly brokered on Tuesday that would have had the nine remaining schools in the Big 12 granting their TV rights on the Tier 1 and Tier 2 level for more than six years. One source said the granting of rights would have been closer to the length of time left on the Big 12's Tier 2 TV deal with Fox, which has 13 years remaining. But as part of the agreement, there were restrictions proposed on Tier 3 content, and Texas balked, the source said. The restrictions had to do with any and all high school content, the source said. Texas' Longhorn Network has been at the center of debate over the airing of anything having to do with high schools. Currently, the NCAA has said LHN can show high school highlights in a news format. But LHN, which launched on Aug. 26, hasn't even been doing that - to avoid more controversy as the league works out its issues, sources said. Texas would have to talk to ESPN before making any final decision on content restrictions, since ESPN owns and operates LHN, and those talks haven't yet happened, according to sources. Two sources close to the situation said ABC/ESPN appears ready to renegotiate the Big 12's Tier 1 TV deal, which still has four years remaining on it. By having the ABC/ESPN deal on the same timetable as the Fox deal, the Big 12 can improve its bargaining leverage and create a timetable for the granting of rights that could strengthen the league, the sources said. But none of that will happen unless the schools remaining in the Big 12 can reach agreement on what will be included in the terms of everyone granting rights. The Big 12 appears ready to expand, and the list of targets getting the most consideration right now continue to be BYU, TCU, Louisville and Cincinnati, multiple sources said. But there is mixed opinions inside the league about whether to grow to 10 or 12 (with or without Missouri). And here's why: ABC/ESPN agreed to keep paying the Big 12 as a 10-team league last summer for the remainder of its deal (through 2015-16). But if the league grows back to 12 and doesn't include Texas A&M, Nebraska, Missouri and Colorado, but does include the likes of BYU, TCU, Louisville and Cincinnati, it's not necessarily a better TV product. There's concern ABC/ESPN could come back and say, "Why should we pay more money to keep everyone at their current TV revenue number when the product is arguably inferior?" But it's clear that the remaining members in the Big 12 are looking at options to grow to 10 or 12 at the moment, sources said. But right now it appears Missouri is waiting to see if an agreement in the Big 12 can be reached on a longer term for the granting of rights before making any final decision about bolting the Big 12 (for the SEC), sources said. Some in the Big 12 are more optimistic than others about the ability to keep Missouri in the fold. Here's what Big 12 interim commissioner Chuck Neinas said Tuesday: "The University of Missouri is a member in good standing in the Big 12 Conference, and I anticipate the University will continue to be a member of the Big 12." There does not appear to be a deadline from the Big 12 - right now - for Missouri to make a decision whether to stay or go. Stay tuned.
I really don't know why we have such a hard on for these high school games. Its really getting us in trouble. Me and most of my fellow longhorn friends have long since felt we should let this issue go. They must have some agreement with ESPN on this, because the recruiting edge can't be that big to hold up as much as it is.
Why are they even worried about the LHN? NOBODY ****ING CARRIES THE STUPID NETWORK! Hell, most of us won't even pay for it. I sure have no use for it except to watch two games a year, and I can stream those or go to a Texas Ex's get together.
