The scene of Trump protestors waiving flags of Jesus is sickening. Hitching Christianity to the wagon of any country, political party, or person is an abomination and tantamount to heresy. To Those Who Call Yourself Christians and Have Overlooked Trump & His Radical Base in Order to Win the Culture War: I've made numerous attempts to understand the Southern Baptist church's enablement of childish behavior from the President and from his far right base. I get it. You wanted your Justices. You wanted religious liberties. Guess what? You got them and guess what? Nothing's different. Abortion isn't going to change because of a majority on the bench. Every thing beyond Supreme Court Justices is likely to be undone this year. And what's the price? Now the brand of Christianity is associated with far right Trumpism. The Church is at least in part responsible for this mess, if not a large part of it. Even if you don't condone what happened on the Hill today, even if you're not a radical Trumper, your Christian nationalism and power grab to use Trump to legislate Christian values is what opened pandoras box. I'm ashamed to call myself a Christian if that's the brand of Christianity in America. If that is American Christianity I want no part of it. I'll call myself something else just to differentiate myself from whatever perverse form Christianity has become in the US. But if you believe following Jesus means "taking a stand" and "fighting for the soul of this nation" just know we are not the same. You might think I am apostate as I do you. But for me and I know at least a good number of other Christ followers/Churches, you are following a brand of Christianity that is errant and not the same as the rest of us. I tried reaching for unity, to avoid division I was willing to overlook the errors of my fellow Christian. But this is where we've ended up and now I've reached a point where I have to say we follow different faiths. We do not follow the same Jesus. We do not believe and submit to the same bible. We are a house divided and maybe that's okay. At least now I know what the American Church is actually made of so I can differentiate myself accordingly. To Those Who Are Disillusioned Christ Followers or Those Who Just Think This is Who Christians Are: I'm sorry. This is not who Christ is and not the way He wanted His Church to be. You can hate the Church, I get it. You have a lot of reasons to hate Christians and frankly I don't blame you. But don't make the mistake of associating what the Church does today with who Jesus is. That's not the brand that Jesus intended.
Bravo! I certainly don’t understand how these Christians supporting Trump regardless of how he conducts himself claim to be on the side of God and Jesus. And, we all know Trump is about as religious as a turkey dining at Thanksgiving. Oh...but he shares the same values! Hogwash!
There are no true Scottsman I guess. I mean, I voted for him, twice... cuz of the babies and evil Hillary. And it was ok when he was cheatin on his wife with a p*rn star while she was at home with a newborn. It was ok when children were put into cages and separated from their parents. It was really really ok when Pence and co made it rain stimulus. cash. But now I feel personally threatened and want someone to put humpty dumpty back together. Not directed at OP personally but.... get f@#$ing bent.
Where Christian nationalism is most dominant in the U.S. Share whose views align with Christian Nationalist beliefs Based on respondents' answers to five questions about Christian Nationalism Christian nationalism is now deeply entrenched inside today's Republican Party, according to a sweeping 50-state survey. Why it matters: The once-fringe ideology holds that the U.S. was founded as a Christian nation and should be governed according to strict Christian values, even as the country becomes less religious and more racially diverse. The divide reflects a broader clash over whether America's future is pluralistic or rooted in a singular religious-national identity. By the numbers: About one-third of Americans qualify as Christian nationalism "adherents" or "sympathizers," a new survey released Tuesday by the nonpartisan Public Religion Research Institute finds. 56% of all Republicans are Christian nationalism "adherents" or "sympathizers," the survey said. Meanwhile, only 25% of independents and just 17% of Democrats are "adherents" or "sympathizers," according to the survey. State of play: Many adherents say the U.S. was founded as the "Promised Land" for white European Christians, and falsely believe the founding fathers sought to create a Christian nation, PRRI president Robert P. Jones tells Axios. Critics say Christian nationalism reinforces rigid, male-dominated leadership models in church, home and government, and merges religious identity with white ethnic nationalism. It also elevates Christianity — often a specific conservative Protestant expression — above other faiths. Between the lines: This is one of the first type of studies to show how widespread Christian nationalism has become, PRRI CEO Melissa Deckman tells Axios. PRRI first developed its five-question Christian nationalism scale in 2022, measuring agreement with statements such as declaring the U.S. a Christian nation and basing laws on Christian values. The overall share of Americans qualifying as "Adherents" or "Sympathizers" has remained largely steady over the past three years. Zoom in: The new survey also shows that Christian nationalism strongly correlates with those who have a favorable opinion of President Trump and those who live in states with GOP-controlled state legislatures. In Arkansas and Oklahoma, for example, Republicans control roughly 80% of state legislative seats — and those states rank among the highest in Christian nationalism support. Blue states such as California (22%), New York (21%) and Washington (18%) report the lowest levels. Zoom out: The report found that many of those who support Christian nationalism also support far-right conservative views around immigration, pluralism, and gender roles, Deckman said. Around 67% of adherents say immigrants are "invading" and replacing Americans' culture, for example. Another 61% support deporting undocumented immigrants to foreign prisons without due process. 73% of adherents view Trump as a strong leader who should be given the power he needs, while majorities of skeptics call him a dangerous dictator, the survey found. The bottom line: Christian nationalism remains a minority view nationally. But inside the Republican Party, and in many Republican-led states, it is a majority current, tightly aligned with Trump and with growing implications for immigration policy, executive power and the future shape of American democracy. Methodology: PRRI conducted the survey between Feb. 18-Dec. 8, 2025. The poll is based on a representative sample of 22,111 adults living in all 50 states. The margin of error is ±0.87 percentage points at the 95% confidence level, for results based on the entire sample.
If anyone else is curious, these are the 5 questions the survey asks to identify christian nationalists: The U.S. government should declare America a Christian nation. U.S. laws should be based on Christian values. If the U.S. moves away from our Christian foundations, we will not have a country anymore. Being Christian is an important part of being truly American. God has called Christians to exercise dominion over all areas of American society. You get a score of 0 to 1 based on how much you agree with each statement. 0.75+ you're an adherent. Agree over halfway and you're a sympathizer. 0.0 and you're a rejector (which btw seems like a pretty extreme requirement; I think I could probably disagree instead of strongly disagree on one of those and still reject the whole premise). I wonder what the bbs rate of christian nationalism is. If you're not sure what you are, here is the online quiz version (0 to 20 instead of 0 to 1, but the same test): How Christian Nationalist Am I? - Vote Common Good.
Trump chooses the Christin values he wants when they are aligned with his values. For instance, killing supposed drug runners with the military. Trump doesn't drink so it's okay to kill a drug runner
