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ICE executes a defenseless citizen (Murder #2)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Jan 24, 2026.

  1. No Worries

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    Minneapolis has 600 LEOs. ICE has 3,000 agent active in Minneapolis.

    In a shooting war, I would put money on the LEOs, but there will be heavy casualties on both sides. This would be a no-win war.

    Trump likely would think a shooting war would make good TV and get great ratings.
     
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    I am gonna need a link ;)
     
  3. The Captain

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    Why can't the cops arrest the feds who are obstructing a legal warrant? @Nook ?
     
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  4. Agent94

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    Right they are committing a crime, arrest them and when they resist, shoot them in the back 7 times. That’s the perfectly sane thing to do according to MAGA dipshits @ROXRAN and @Commodore. Why not just shoot first and ask questions later, because it’s r****ded for masked men carrying guns to be and interfering with police at a homicide scene.
     
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    You're restarted for thinking ICE is law enforcement
     
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    @ROXRAN You are on the wrong side. Do yourself a favor and take a stand now and be proud you turned from your support of this murder and oppression by the government. You won't be able to hide from the shame of them later if you don't.
     
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  7. Reeko

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    if you’re there with a warrant for a murder scene, you are insane if you let ICE deny and obstruct you for even one second

    exerting your authority immediately in this situation doesn’t mean that a shootout would break out

    keep capitulating to literal demons, and they will never stop

    allowing ICE to deny you access to the scene to the point where when you finally did gain access, you admit there wasn’t much you could do by that point is an inexcusable failure
     
  8. Agent94

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    And another thing, how the **** are these evil pricks pretending that a man that takes care of veterans using his First and second amendment rights to protest a police state isn’t their wet dream.
     
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  9. Reeko

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    let’s not even get into the fact that before this man was murdered, ICE thugs assaulted a woman which prompted Alex Pretti, the VA ICU nurse, to attempt to help her and render aid

    Will there even be an arrest for the assault, let alone the murder?

    they assault people every hour of the day, and not one arrest

    We are being failed on every level right now.
     
  10. ElPigto

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    Murder carries no statute of limitations. These jackasses may believe they are shielded under the current administration but the ****ers will get their day in court.
     
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    How many more people will have to get assaulted and killed in the meantime? They act with impunity because they receive absolutely zero consequences, and so they continue to escalate

    Even if they hadn’t murdered this man, they pepper sprayed him right in the face and then were beating his ass. And for what? Because he was simply filming them.

    if he hadn’t been shot and killed today, he would’ve just been the latest in a long line of people that have been brutally assaulted and received nothing more than a tweet about it
     
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    They've always wanted a police state. They might not have said those words, but everything they've advocated for reveals that. This characterization of conservatism sums them up:

    That's it. They want to be protected and hurt others.
     
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    There won't be. The administration has already announced a conclusion with no investigation. They even claimed he was trying to create a massacre.
     
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    Jesus christ this is the worst angle to date. He wasnt even impeding at all. They literally killed him in cold blood
     
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    He larped as a libertarian on this board for years, but went full mask-off when Trump gave him permission to.
     
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    I've seen this movie before...


    Bipolar Trump is acting as Zionest Biden
    Stephen Miller as Natanyahu
    Waltz as Mahmood Abbas
    ICE as IDF
    new Bots Members to compensate for ATW
     
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    They're very quiet given how much we're now living every gun nut's fantasy scenario and the nra's own go to reasoning for the right to bear arms.
     
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    People like @ROXRAN believes that his death was justified and supports it. He cheered for ICE to not stop after this murder. Others like @Os Trigonum believe people who thought the Trump administration would attack its own citizens or put up any real threat to enforcement of the Constitution.
     
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    From a legal perspective, this is a different scenario to the Renee Good, which was 100% her fault and those on the left who egged her on.

    In this case, although he intended to cause trouble with a loaded gun, ammo, magazine clips and no ID, he appears to have been disarmed while being restrained by atleast 3 agents. So the only way for the ICE agent to demonstrate probable cause is if the victim was reaching for the officer's weapon.

    What's odd about it is that the woman antagonizer, when he falls to the ground, the victim appears to be aggressively dragging her. That may be due to a negative reaction after he was maced and not able to see she was not an officer. It's likely the mace caused him to panic and go into fight or flight mode. What I can't see is what he was reaching for moments before he was shot because it appears his own loaded weapon was removed.

    It would be prudent to describe the nuance of this situation and the difference between the two instances and relieve the ICE officer who fired the first shot of his position. And when the democrats once again talk about being thirsty for blood by weaponizing the legal system - look into how you can charge democrats who use rhetoric that has these protestors pretending they are the gestapo. Because we know they never used it when Obama was President and Homan was hired.
     
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