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Your kitchen pan can kick your A**

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Cohen, Jan 25, 2005.

  1. Cohen

    Cohen Member

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    What's next? :confused:

    http://www.ewg.org/reports/toxicteflon/es.php


    Executive Summary
    teflon on stoves reaches dangerous levels graphic

    In two to five minutes on a conventional stovetop, cookware coated with Teflon and other non-stick surfaces can exceed temperatures at which the coating breaks apart and emits toxic particles and gases linked to hundreds, perhaps thousands, of pet bird deaths and an unknown number of human illnesses each year, according to tests commissioned by Environmental Working Group (EWG).

    In new tests conducted by a university food safety professor, a generic non-stick frying pan preheated on a conventional, electric stovetop burner reached 736°F in three minutes and 20 seconds, with temperatures still rising when the tests were terminated. A Teflon pan reached 721°F in just five minutes under the same test conditions (See Figure 1), as measured by a commercially available infrared thermometer. DuPont studies show that the Teflon offgases toxic particulates at 446°F. At 680°F Teflon pans release at least six toxic gases, including two carcinogens, two global pollutants, and MFA, a chemical lethal to humans at low doses. At temperatures that DuPont scientists claim are reached on stovetop drip pans (1000°F), non-stick coatings break down to a chemical warfare agent known as PFIB, and a chemical analog of the WWII nerve gas phosgene.

    For the past fifty years DuPont has claimed that their Teflon coatings do not emit hazardous chemicals through normal use. In a recent press release, DuPont wrote that "significant decomposition of the coating will occur only when temperatures exceed about 660 degrees F (340 degrees C). These temperatures alone are well above the normal cooking range."

    These new tests show that cookware exceeds these temperatures and turns toxic through the common act of preheating a pan, on a burner set on high.
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    In cases of "Teflon toxicosis," as the bird poisonings are called, the lungs of exposed birds hemorrhage and fill with fluid, leading to suffocation. DuPont acknowledges that the fumes can also sicken people, a condition called "polymer fume fever." DuPont has never studied the incidence of the fever among users of the billions of non-stick pots and pans sold around the world. Neither has the company studied the long-term effects from the sickness, or the extent to which Teflon exposures lead to human illnesses believed erroneously to be the common flu.

    The government has not assessed the safety of non-stick cookware. According to a Food and Drug Administration (FDA) food safety scientist: "You won't find a regulation anywhere on the books that specifically addresses cookwares," although the FDA approved Teflon for contact with food in 1960 based on a food frying study that found higher levels of Teflon chemicals in hamburger cooked on heat-aged and old pans. At the time, FDA judged these levels to be of little health significance.

    Of the 6.9 million bird-owning households in the US that claim an estimated 19 million pet birds, many don't know know that Teflon poses an acute hazard to birds. Most non-stick cookware carries no warning label. DuPont publicly acknowledges that Teflon can kill birds, but the company-produced public service brochure on bird safety discusses the hazards of ceiling fans, mirrors, toilets, and cats before mentioning the dangers of Teflon fumes.

    As a result of the new data showing that non-stick surfaces reach toxic temperatures in a matter of minutes, EWG has petitioned the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) to require that cookware and heated appliances bearing non-stick coatings must carry a label warning of the acute hazard the coating poses to pet birds. Additionally, we recommend that bird owners completely avoid cookware and heated appliances with non-stick coatings. Alternative cookware includes stainless steel and cast iron, neither of which offgases persistent pollutants that kill birds.
     
  2. Uprising

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    Already knew about the teflon problem, that's why i don't have my bird in the living room when Iam cooking. (also onions etc can harm birds eyes (the vapors))
     
  3. SWTsig

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    birds are such p*****s.
     
  4. Davidoff

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    HAHA LMAO.. it was good info though..
     
  5. Uprising

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    You jyust say that in my "chicken's " face! (chjicken is a a cockatiel. ) I named him that just teasing my little sister since it was her bird at the time. But turns out it stuck wit hhim and now that is his name. and he is now mine considering my isis is in saudi.
     
  6. Cohen

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    I had heard about teflon's toxicity before, I just didn't know it released toxic gases while cooking.
     
  7. swilkins

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    Speaking of pet birds. My wife talked about having one years ago and I kind of acted like I didn't here it.

    Uprising,

    What kind of bird do you have and for how long? Does it make a lot of noise? What are some of the pros and cons to birds?

    I don't mean to derail the thread. I just didn't want to start a thread called:

    Birds - They're not just for dinner anymore
     
  8. Cohen

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    swilkens,

    My family and relatives have had Parakeets, Cockatoos and Cockatiels. A few have been nice (no biting) and quiet. Most...well none of us have birds anymore.
     
  9. Uprising

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    I have a Cockatiel and have had it since '98,.

    It's very nice, occasionally can be loud, but with me yelling his name he becomes quiet.

    It allows me to scratch it all around its head etc. I love birds. To me, it's like a cheaper dog or something. Easy to take care of and all.

    I love having a pet to be greeted by when I get home. The bird does that for me.
     

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