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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2353742,00.html

Fears of revenge attacks on stingrays over Irwin death
By Devika Bhat and agencies

At least ten stingrays have been found dead and mutilated on Australia’s eastern coast in the last week in what conservationists believe could be revenge attacks for the death of Steve Irwin, the popular naturalist and television personality.

Irwin, known by his fans as the "Crocodile Hunter", was killed last Monday when a stingray barb pierced his chest as he filmed a new TV programme off the Great Barrier Reef. His death triggered an outpouring of grief in Australia and among thousands of admirers worldwide.

But now it is feared that fans' mourning has taken a new focus: stingray rage.

The dead stingrays have been discovered on two beaches in Queensland state, where Mr Irwin lived and ran his popular wildlife park, Australia Zoo. Two of the unfortunate rays, discovered today, were retrieved with their tails lopped off, according to local fishery officials.

Michael Hornby, a friend of Mr Irwin and executive director of his conservation group Wildlife Warriors, said he was concerned that the rays, which are usually docile creatures, were being hunted and killed in retaliation for Irwin's death, which he said, would go against everything that the television star had stood for.

"It may be some sort of retribution, or it may be fear from certain individuals, or it just may be yet another callous act toward wildlife," he said.

"We are disgusted and disappointed that people would take this sort of action to hurt wildlife. We just want to make it very clear that we will not accept and not stand for anyone who has taken a form of retribution. That’s the last thing Steve would want."

"Stingrays are beautiful creatures and play an important role for the environment. I hope everyone understands we have to protect wildlife now more than ever. This is what Steve was all about."

Stingrays are usually shy, unobtrusive fish that rummage along the sea bottom for food or burrow into the sand. When stepped on or otherwise frightened, a serrated spine up to 25cm (10 inches) long in the animal’s tail flares up.

The spines emit toxins that can kill small creatures and cause excruciating pain in humans. Few people die from the poison, but the spines can badly tear flesh and the wounds are prone to infections, including tetanus.

Rick Symons, government fisheries manager of animal welfare, said that officials were investigating the matter and warned that offenders could be prosecuted if evidence of cruelty was found.

Wayne Sumpton, from the state fisheries department, said there had been reports of similar incidents in the past after fishermen had inadvertently caught stingrays and cut off their tails to avoid being stung, but such incidents were not common and were not condoned by the authorities.

Meanwhile, Irwin's admirers appear also to be using technology to avenge the death of the daredevil star.

A website has created a game called Terri Irwin's Revenge, depicting the naturalist's wife firing at stingrays underwater. The aim of the game, which is being circulated via e-mail, is to kill as many stingrays as possible without getting hit, reports the Sydney Morning Herald.

However, the game has been receiving mixed responses from online visitors. "We should make it clear, this game is intended to be a memorial and NOT a funny parody," say its creators, who go by the names of Josh Tuttle, -altr- and Onic, on the website mofunzone.com

Mr Irwin was buried last week in the grounds of his zoo at a private ceremony after his family turned down the offer of a state funeral. A public memorial service will be held next week.
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#1 Mr. Brightside, Sep 12, 2006

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Crocodile Hunter Extremists using terrorist attacks on Sting Rays?? WTF!

#2 Zboy, Sep 12, 2006
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the work of THIS man:

#3 MadMax, Sep 12, 2006
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Anyone who's watched Jaws IV or Orca knows that revenge is highly prevalent in the animal world.

#4 Buck Turgidson, Sep 12, 2006
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This is a little ghey...Are people really going to take out their anger on Stingrays...

STINGRAYS, UNITE!!!!

#5 rrj_gamz, Sep 12, 2006
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WOW
Let's avenge the Great Animal Lover. . by harming Animals

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#6 Rocket River, Sep 12, 2006
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Let's avenge the Great Animal Lover. . by harming Animals

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Exactly....this is world class dumb.

Be like firebombing to avenge Ghandi.

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Anyone ever stop to think it might not be revenge but that rather its a fear of attack?

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halfbreed said:

Anyone ever stop to think it might not be revenge but that rather its a fear of attack?
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Yeah because you hear of stingray attacks all the time and probably why they have "Swim with the stingrays" all over the caribbean. It was a fluke man. Stingrays don't generally hurt people.

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Master Baiter said:

Yeah because you hear of stingray attacks all the time and probably why they have "Swim with the stingrays" all over the caribbean. It was a fluke man. Stingrays don't generally hurt people.
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I know that but maybe not everyone does.

Either way, if you're out swimming right now and a stingray comes close to you, you're telling me you won't be scared?

"Knowing" that something won't hurt you is how he got killed in the first place.

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halfbreed said:

Anyone ever stop to think it might not be revenge but that rather its a fear of attack?
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Yes, out of fear, these nimrods are going into the ocean, pulling the stingrays out of the water, mutilating them, and leaving the mutilated stingrays out on the beach

#11 A-Train, Sep 12, 2006
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I wonder if grilled stingray tastes good?

#12 RocketMan Tex, Sep 12, 2006
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halfbreed said:

Anyone ever stop to think it might not be revenge but that rather its a fear of attack?
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yea, so let's go swimming in the water where they live b/c it's our human right to invade their territory. string ray be damned, my safety is more important.

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Yes, out of fear, these nimrods are going into the ocean, pulling the stingrays out of the water, mutilating them, and leaving the mutilated stingrays out on the beach
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And if they're doing it for revenge, are they leaving the bodies on the beach as a sign to other stingrays?

I'm not saying it isn't possible or likely. I'm just saying that if I'm in the water and a stingray comes close to me and I feel threatened, I'm not going to let it be "knowing" that most stingrays don't attack.

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maybe the stingrays themselves drifted onto the beach, and the oxygen in the air caused a reaction to where their bodies bursts into gorey piles of sea flesh?

#15 steddinotayto, Sep 12, 2006
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macalu said:

yea, so let's go swimming in the water where they live b/c it's our human right to invade their territory. string ray be damned, my safety is more important.
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"Invade their territory?"

So humans can no longer enter the ocean because stingrays live there?

And yes, human safety is more important than stingray safety. I'm not saying they should go out into the water to kill them because that's not increasing human safety. I'm saying that if a stingray comes close to someone in the water and that person kills the stingray out of fear, I have no problem with that.

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I wonder if grilled stingray tastes good?
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Stingray & skate wings are used by shady seafood restaurants as "scallops". They basically take a cookie cutter type thing & cut out circular pieces. The grain of the flesh runs horizontally, though, unlike true scallops. No idea what it tastes like.

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halfbreed said:

"Invade their territory?"

So humans can no longer enter the ocean because stingrays live there?

And yes, human safety is more important than stingray safety. I'm not saying they should go out into the water to kill them because that's not increasing human safety. I'm saying that if a stingray comes close to someone in the water and that person kills the stingray out of fear, I have no problem with that.
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yes, it is invading their territory. it's where they live. would you like me to just walk into your home?
sure, you can go in the ocean. but if you cared about your safety so much, why are you going in there anyways if you fear sting rays that could possibly kill you?

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OMG, halfbreed, you have leapfrogged the mortal realm of stupid comments into a whole new stratosphere...

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macalu said:

yes, it is invading their territory. it's where they live. would you like me to just walk into your home?
sure, you can go in the ocean. but if you cared about your safety so much, why are you going in there anyways if you fear sting rays that could possibly kill you?
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Using that logic, you can't justify self defense in an area that isn't your home.

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