Essentially here I'm just combining all the info in various threads into one that is easy for everyone to read and find. Still need the Spurs need to decide between giving Reggie Miller or Derek Anderson. Any last minute changes to the list must be completed by around 6 Monday evening. The draft will be held in the CC.net chat Tuesday night at 9 pm Central, and picks will be posted in a draft thread with the order, etc. If you can't get to the chat but can get to the BBS, just follow the thread and pick when it is your turn. If you can't be there period, send me an email at SlamDuncan2121@yahoo.com with either a list of who to pick in order or a description of certain players or positions to pick in scenarios, etc. Special thanks to Heath and kbm for a lot of help in getting both of these lists done. Some of the top players and stats from computer owned teams have also been added. First round 1. Hawks 10-72 (No GM) 2. Nuggets 12-70 (No GM) 3. Bulls 13-69 (No GM) 4. Suns 14-68 (No GM) 5. Clips 15-67 (No GM) 6. Magic 16-66 (No GM) 7. Warriors 16-66 (No GM) 8. Heat 23-59 (No GM) 9. Hornets 28-54 (No GM) 10. Celtics 30-52 (Puedlfor: Current 1st pick in all drafts) New GM Season 2 11. Cavs 30-52 (No GM) 12. Sixers (from Grizzlies 36-46) (Heath - 2nd) 13. Kings 46-36 (DVauthrin - 3rd) 14. Pistons 35-47 (Castor - 4th) 15. Wizards 37-45 (deanbcurtis - 5th) 16. Nets 42-40 (CriscoKidd - 6th) Franchise sold from GB Rockets Fan 17. Knicks 45-37 (Johny Rocket - 7th) New GM season 2 18. Pacers 49-33 (No GM) 19. Rockets 54-28 (Cat - 8th) 20. Grizzlies (from Sixers 55-27) (Nomar - 9th) 21. Raptors 57-25 (kbm - 10th) 22. Bucks 58-24 (Ren D - 11th) 23. Sonics 58-24 (RunninRaven - 12th) 24. Spurs 60-22 (dc rock - 13th) 25. Wolves 62-20 (vj23k - 14th) 26. Lakers 62-20 (fadeaway - 15th) 27. Jazz 72-10 (BGM - 16th) 28. Mavs 76-6 (VOR - 17th) 29. Blazers 78-4 (Smeg - 18th) Second round 1. Hawks 10-72 (No GM) 2. Nuggets 12-70 (No GM) 3. Bulls 13-69 (No GM) 4. Suns 14-68 (No GM) 5. Clips 15-67 (No GM) 6. Magic 16-66 (No GM) 7. Warriors 16-66 (No GM) 8. Heat 23-59 (No GM) 9. Hornets 28-54 (No GM) 10. Celtics 30-52 (Puedlfor: Current first pick in all drafts) New GM Season 2 11. Cavs 30-52 (No GM) 12. Grizzlies 36-46 (Nomar - 2nd) 13. Kings 46-36 (DVauthrin - 3rd) 14. Pistons 35-47 (Castor - 4th) 15. Wizards 37-45 (deanbcurtis - 5th) 16. Nets 42-40 (CriscoKidd - 6th) Franchise sold from GB Rockets Fan 17. Knicks 45-37 (Johny Rocket - 7th) New GM season 2 18. Pacers 49-33 (No GM) 19. Rockets 54-28 (Cat - 8th) 20. Sixers 55-27 (Heath - 9th) 21. Raptors 57-25 (kbm - 10th) 22. Bucks 58-24 (Ren D - 11th) 23. Sonics 58-24 (RunninRaven - 12th) 24. Spurs 60-22 (dc rock - 13th) 25. Wolves 62-20 (vj23k - 14th) 26. Lakers 62-20 (fadeaway - 15th) 27. Jazz 72-10 (BGM - 16th) 28. Mavs 76-6 (VOR - 17th) 29. Blazers 78-4 (Smeg - 18th) The List and Stats (you can also draft from unowned teams, but not many good players are left) True Center- The Cat/Rockets: Hakeem Olajuwon -- 26.8 mpg - 10.7 pts - 7.6 reb Castor/Pistons: Patrick Ewing -- 32 mpg - 14.0 pts - 9.7 reb DV/Kings: Vlade Divac-- 31 mpg, 11 pts, 7.8 reb Nomar/Grizzlies: Marc Jackson -- 32 mpg - 11.2 pts - 7.6 reb Crisco/Nets: Chris Mihm-- 30 mpg, 9.5 pts, 7.2 reb Bulls: Brad Miller-- 31 mpg, 11.6 pts, 6.2 reb Warriors: Erick Dampier-- 27 mpg, 9.2 pts, 7.3 reb Center/Power Forward- Ren/Bucks: Theo Ratliff-- 32 mpg, 11 pts, 9 reb, 3 blocks VOR/Mavs: Danny Fortson -- 31.4 mpg, 12.3 pts, 9.2 reb vj23k/Wolves: Marcus Camby -- 30 mpg - 10.8 pts - 8.2 reb - 2.15 blocks DBC/Wizards: Jahidi White -- 22.8 mpg - 5.9 pts - 6.3 reb kbm/Raptors: Charles Oakley -- 15 mpg - 4.3 pts - 2.9 reb Puedlfor/Celtics: Vitaly Potapenko -- 34 mpg, 15.2 pts, 6.8 reb Smeg/Blazers: Dale Davis -- 29.6 mpg, 9.6 pts, 10.1 reb Raven/Sonics: Jermaine Oneal -- 30 mpg - 7.8 pts - 8.1 reb - 1.8 blocks True Power Forward- The Cat/Rockets: Mo Taylor -- 27.4 mpg - 15.4 pts - 6.8 reb Raven/Sonics: Brian Grant -- 32 mpg - 11.4 pts - 9.7 reb Heath/Sixers: Tyrone Hill -- 22 mpg - 7.2 pts - 5.2 reb Cavs: Chris Gatling-- 27 mpg, 11.3 pts, 7 reb Power Forward/Small Fowards- fadeaway/Lakers: Anthony Mason -- 30 mpg, 13.4 pts, 6.9 reb Castor/Pistons: Corliss Williamson -- 25 mpg - 9.3 pts - 3.8 reb Pacers: Austin Croshere-- 33 mpg, 13.3 pts, 7.2 reb Pacers: Al Harrington-- 28 mpg, 10.8 pts, 6.7 reb True Small Forward- Smeg/Blazers: Scottie Pippen -- 13.2 pts, 5.6 reb, 4.8 asst Ren/Bucks: Tim Thomas-- 28 mpg, 10.9 pts, 4.8 reb VOR/Mavs: Toni Kukoc -- 31 mpg, 14.6 pts, 5.1 reb, 4.3 asst Heat: Cedric Ceballos-- 29 mpg, 17.9 pts, 2.1 reb (remember how stripped Heat were though) Hornets: Eddie Robinson-- 25 mpg, 10.2 pts, 2 reb Swing Man- DBC/Wizards: Glen Rice -- 25.1 mpg - 13.2 pts - 3.4 reb BGM/Jazz: Jim Jackson-- 33 mpg, 17.2 pts, 5 reb, 3 asst kbm/Raptors: Morris Peterson -- 28 mpg - 13.4 pts - 4.3 reb vj23k/Wolves: Wally Szczerbiak -- 29 mpg, 13.2 pts, 4.1 reb Hakws: Dermarr Johnson-- 35 mpg, 18 pts, 4.5 reb Clips: Corey Maggette-- 31 mpg, 14 pts, 4 reb Bulls: Ron Artest-- 34 mpg, 14.7 pts, 5.1 reb Shooting Guard- fadeaway/Lakers: Isaiah Rider -- 25 mpg, 11.2 pts, 2.9 reb Nomar/Grizzlies: Larry Hughes -- 26 mpg - 13.4 pts - 2.4 reb Pueldfor/Celtics: Bryant Stith-- 31 mpg, 10.6 pts, 2.4 asst JohnyRocket/Knicks: Jud Buechler-- 31 mpg, 9.1 pts, 2.1 reb DCrock/Spurs: Derek Anderson-- 29 mpg, 16 pts, 5 reb, 3 asst Combo Guard- dc rock/Spurs: David Wesley -- 28 mpg, 12.7 pts, 5.6 asst Suns: Tony Delk-- 31 mpg, 14.3 pts, 3 asst Warriors: Bob Sura-- 12 pts, 3.8 asst Point Guard- Dvauthrin/Kings: John Stockton -- 31 mpg, 13.8 pts, 8.2 asst BGM/Jazz: Jason Williams -- 25 mpg - 8.7 pts - 5.3 ast Heath/Sixers: Eric Snow -- 28 mpg - 8.2 pts - 7.5 ast Crisco/Nets: Tim Hardaway-- 19 mpg, 7.4 pts, 3.8 asst JohnyRocket/Knicks: Charlie Ward-- 34 mpg, 11.9 pts, 7.4 asst Hawks: Brevin Knight-- 33 mpg, 10 pts, 8 asst Free agent: Chris Childs-- 19 mpg, 5.2 pts, 3.1 asst Pacers: Travis Best-- 32 mpg, 13.9 pts, 6.1 asst P.S.-- If anyone new still wants to join the league for the 2nd season, there is still time... good teams like the Pacers are still available. In addition, you'll get your pick of Penny or Ilgauskas to use as a building block to start back up. ------------------ President of the Mo Taylor, Jason Collier, and draft Richard Jefferson fan club! Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! Sign up for season 2 of the CC.net NBA Sim League! http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000328.html [This message has been edited by The Cat (edited April 29, 2001).] [This message has been edited by The Cat (edited April 30, 2001).]
CAT, I think the knicks are putting Buechler and Ward in the draft. Look at the roster/statistics thread: *Buechler-- 9.2 pts, 2.1 reb, 31 min *Ward-- 11.9 pts, 7.4 asst, 34 min ------------------ I am an invisible man.
Also one more note to add when considering players to draft, etc... since this season is technically considered 2001-02, zones and handchecks will be allowed for the upcoming seasons. ------------------ President of the Mo Taylor, Jason Collier, and draft Richard Jefferson fan club! Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! Sign up for season 2 of the CC.net NBA Sim League! http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000328.html
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Got it in there... all we need to finish this now is the Spurs to decide between giving Reggie Miller or Derek Anderson. ------------------ President of the Mo Taylor, Jason Collier, and draft Richard Jefferson fan club! Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! Sign up for season 2 of the CC.net NBA Sim League! http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000328.html
Stats from some top players on unowned teams have now been added to the list. ------------------ President of the Mo Taylor, Jason Collier, and draft Richard Jefferson fan club! Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! Sign up for season 2 of the CC.net NBA Sim League! http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000328.html
heheh hay miles isnt verry thick either. i thinkI gave you two death sticks, but at least one can run ------------------ Hanta-Force Paintball www.hanta-force.com
I was thinking about this zone thing cat. How do we know when our teams going to try a zone? Like I mean I've got 4 centers on my roster. Could I decide to run a 2-3 zone with Bradley, Lafrentz, and McDyess against the bigger teams in the league? I just don't understand how this sim will run a zone. Seems really complicated... ------------------ [This message has been edited by Band Geek Mobster (edited April 29, 2001).]
Could I decide to run a 2-3 zone with Bradley, Lafrentz, and McDyess against the bigger teams in the league? Yeah, I can set your team defense if you let me know ahead of time. Usually the sim defense runs on auto-- so the computer would choose what it thinks the best times to run a zone would be. ------------------ President of the Mo Taylor, Jason Collier, and draft Richard Jefferson fan club! Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! Sign up for season 2 of the CC.net NBA Sim League! http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000328.html
Giving this a bump to get this thread ahead of the numerous other ones... since this is the important thread just making sure everyone sees it. ------------------ President of the Mo Taylor, Jason Collier, and draft Richard Jefferson fan club! Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! Sign up for season 2 of the CC.net NBA Sim League! http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000328.html
Tried compiling list of Top10 availavble by position. This list done in a hurry and not very much thought behind but would perhaps give you a general idea if you're drafting for position. The players is from the category Cat has listed them in the list over. If anyone feel the players can play another position not listed he will not be in the top 10 for that position. Ex Can Marc Jackson play PF. (I think he could produce but he is listed as true center and you will only find him in the center list.) Top10 Centers (True Center, Center/PF) 1. Ratliff 2. Camby 3. O'Neal J. 4. Ewing 5. Fortson 6. Olajuwon 7. Divac 8. Jackson 9. Mihm 0. Potapenko Top 10 Power Forwards (C/PF, PF, PF/SF) 1. Ratliff 2. Camby 3. Taylor 4. O'Neal J. 5. Fortson 6. Grant B 7. Mason 8. Croshere 9. Hill 0. Gatling Top10 Small Forwards (PF/SF, SF, Swingman) 1. Pippen 2. Kukoc 3. Jackson J 4. Rice 5. Mason 6. Croshere 7. Peterson 8. Szczerbiak 9. Thomas T. 0. Johnson D. Top10 Shooting Guards (Swingman, SG, Combo-guard) 1. Anderson D. 2. Jackson J. 3. Rice 4. Peterson 5. Szczerbiak 6. Wesley 7. Rider 8. Delk 9. Johnson D. 0. Hughes Top 10 Point Guards (Combo Guard, PG) 1. Stockton 2. Wesley 3. Snow 4. Ward 5. Best 6. Knight 7. Delk 8. Williams J 9. Hardaway T. 0. Sura I know plenty would disagree in this list - and I even know I would if I hda taken more time to study the stats - but it is a starting point. Remember that there are more players available and a player that di go as #11 in my list in a position could easily be a better draft pick than any of the obes in the list 3-5 position over #11. Players not in this list at any position (ex) is Pacers Harrington and others that could be good picks in the draft for your team. Edit: Added the new addition Derek Anderson to the Top10 list ------------------ Join the cc.net NBA sim The CC.net NBA Sim Rosters & Stats - Stat request & Stats - Trade discussions [This message has been edited by Heath2000 (edited April 30, 2001).]
This list is now final... since Spurs did not respond, he will put Derek Anderson in the draft as the 2nd player from his team. ------------------ President of the Mo Taylor, Jason Collier, and draft Richard Jefferson fan club! Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! Sign up for season 2 of the CC.net NBA Sim League! http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000328.html
What were DA's stats? ------------------ Founder and President of the Houston Homers Club(HHC) - Are you a homer? Join now! The Rockets will be NBA champions. Believe.
They're in the stat box in the first post of this thread... ------------------ President of the Mo Taylor, Jason Collier, and draft Richard Jefferson fan club! Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! Sign up for season 2 of the CC.net NBA Sim League! http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000328.html
CAT, On next year, are we going to have to put two of our starters in a common draft again? I really think that idea is a bad one because GMs will find it hard to keep and develop younger talent. If I draft, say, Eddy Curry, then start him, I would find it hard not to put him in the draft when I have miller, Dirk, and predrag. To me, it is much better to just have a rookie draft after this season. ------------------ I am an invisible man.
Ok, I see them now. Thanks ------------------ Founder and President of the Houston Homers Club(HHC) - Are you a homer? Join now! The Rockets will be NBA champions. Believe.
KBM, Good point. Hadn't thought of that before. After this season, probably for just this one, we may not have the two starter draft... rookie draft should be good enough to move the balance of power a little for the 3rd season. What does everyone else think of this? ------------------ President of the Mo Taylor, Jason Collier, and draft Richard Jefferson fan club! Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! Sign up for season 2 of the CC.net NBA Sim League! http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000328.html
CAT, Could you give me the box scores of the Raptors and Nets playoff matchup? Thanks ------------------ I am an invisible man.
