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The Presidents of Harvard, MIT, Penn, Columbia, Cornell, Penn should be forced to resign

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Dec 5, 2023.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Didn’t read any of the Tweets but I agree with the subject.
     
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    The responses are pretty crazy.

    If you were to replace the word "Jews" with "black people" or any other group, you bet the answers would not be the same.

    Sad.
     
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    It's not as sad as your slow morph into the tinman of the D&D. Guess I'll put you on ignore sooner than later...
     
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    It’s unacceptable to call for harm for any peoples or groups based on immutable characteristics.
     
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    Totally agree.

    I mean, I know you said you didn't watch it - but if you watch the first video, 3 minutes - these three "presidents" keep evading a simple "yes" to the question if calling for death to all Jews violates their code of conduct - they literally go "it depends on the context"/"it violates the code of conduct if it turns into action" (WTF??).

    Now imagine someone shouting

    "Death to all Muslims"
    "Death to all Blacks"
    "Death to all Gays"
    "Death to all Trans people"
    "Death to all [insert any other group of people]"

    How would you NOT consider that a violation of the code of conduct????

    It's literally insane and indefensible to answer "it depends on the context", only when it comes to Jews.

    These three ladies must be forced to resign.
     
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    There is no context where it’s acceptable to call for the death of Jews.
     
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    Yea, if I wanted to read propaganda everyday on a regular basis I could find it myself not racist German guy. Peace...
     
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    Remember when conservatives were saying that campuses should allow more free speech?
     
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    Answer this question:

    Do you think that if someone were to walk around on campus, shouting "Death to all Gays"/"Death to all Women"/"Death to all Blacks", that this would not be considered a sanctionable act?

    You think that would be without consequences?
     
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    If a college president was asked this question with regards to, say, gays, and their response was something like “it depends on the context” or “it depends on the severity of the call”, is that a fireable offense?

    I can absolutely see a bunch of progressive woke people saying “yes”, and many conservative, anti-woke, anti cancel culture people saying “no”.

    Where do you land on that, in a university context where free speech is supposed to be highly value (but sadly, increasingly, isn’t).
     
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    I think "Death to [any group of people]" clearly constitutes a violation of the honour code and legitimately makes other students and professors feel unsafe. That's not free speech, that's de facto a death threat.

    To answer "it depends on the context" or "only when it turns into action" only when it comes to Jews are simply outrageous responses.

    You bet your ass that these same woke university presidents would NOT tolerate it if someone were to chant "Death to all Gays" on campus.

    Never.
     
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    Consequences like they should be called out for being hateful and bigoted but not legal consequences as has been frequently stated free speech isn’t really free speech if all it protects is speech that is inoffensive.

    It’s also interesting you cite that examples because conservatives have frequently complained that colleges are banning conservative speakers like Milo Yannipoulis because they have said misogynists and racist things. Anyway I see now that you’re for cancelling when it’s speech you find offensive.
     
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    It is hard to believe that we are here. I guess they have the backing of their donors and leadership with these answers but I feel like there has be opposition to these positions within their institutions as well.
     
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    Death threats aren't free speech.

    If you are a Jewish student, and some people next to you chant "Death to all Jews", that's a death threat to you.
     
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