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The End of Superteams

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by celebrevida, May 30, 2018.

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  1. celebrevida

    celebrevida Member

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    In the modern era, the 2008 Celtics are considered to have started the "Superteam" era by joining three HoFer together. In 2010, Miami took it to another level with joining LeBron, Bosh with Wade. And of course we have Durant joining the Warriors in 2016.

    But in past, most teams have used the traditional "superstar duo with great role players" model. Think Malone and Stockton, Shaq and Kobe, Shaq and Wade, etc.

    One thing that the Rockets proved this year is that the superstar duo model still works. Rockets won 65 games and took the Warriors to 7 games in the WCF with the Harden/Paul duo joining great role players.

    I think that Rockets success means that the superteam era is over. GMs and especially owners will be thinking, why do I need to form and pay for a superteam? 2017-18 Rockets prove that it isn't necessary!
     
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  2. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

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    Clint and Gordon shared the 3rd star status......in the playoffs. Clint not so much against GSW overall but against everyone else.

    In the regular season both of them could be viewed as close to being a star.

    It is still necessary.
     
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  3. TheRealAllpro

    TheRealAllpro Morey only fan

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    What makes a super team? To me it's at least 3 All Stars and two of them are in the MVP discussion.
     
    #3 TheRealAllpro, May 30, 2018
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  4. daywalker02

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    I think Lebron is the guy who can overshadow anyone, put Wade and Bosh in the Non MVP discussion/ no discussion.
     
    #4 daywalker02, May 30, 2018
  5. 1Deep

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    Technically I think we qualified as a superteam this year.
    We had three guys making over 20mil a year.
    Ryno just sucked.
     
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  6. durvasa

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    The Rockets had a super team in 1997, with Hakeem, Barkley, and Drexler.
     
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  7. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    If your goal is to beat the Warriors then going either route would be equally as difficult IMO.
     
    #7 Ziggy, May 30, 2018
  8. Amiga

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    What about the 2017/18 OKC? Oops n/m.
     
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  9. Jontro

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    who needs super teams when you have super refs on your side?
     
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  10. Space Ghost

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    Who needs super teams when the next best team goes 0 for 27.
     
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  11. Air Langhi

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    What about the 80s Celtics and the Lakers. They were full of Hall of Farmers, or the lakers with west, wilt, and baylor. etc. There have been super teams forever.
     
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    Rockets were often a team of extremes..... Either outscore anyone in the previous seasons or outdefend everyone and lay the most bricks in playoff history.
     
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  13. pahiyas

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    Super Team = 2 MVP, 2 All Stars, 3 Refs
     
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  14. vlaurelio

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    Yep no more 2 superstar 2 allstar superteams

    Its superduper teams now

    2 superstars 2 allstars 3 refs
     
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  15. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    Yep.

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    He also forgot these feeble attempts at building super teams.

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    Remember just cause you build one... the championships may still not come.
     
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  16. Air Langhi

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    Father time is undefeated, 33 is a lot different than 28-30.
     
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    If that's the case then you could say the same thing about CP3 at 33, and possibly adding LBJ at 33
     
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    Ok. I would've agreed, if it were just Shaq and Kobe from the 1999-03, but Malone and Payton signed with the Lakers as free agents, while still being fairly noticeable all-stars.
     
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    I would consider the late Pistons 2004 as a Super team on Defense. Folks are not mentioning that enough.

    They were holding teams under 80......
     
    #19 daywalker02, May 31, 2018
  20. Newlin

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    Having two future hall of famers on your team is pretty super.
     
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