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Sarkozy: Obama 'utterly immature' on Iran

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  1. basso

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    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031943.html

    i thought the french were supposed to love us after the Obama ascension?

    [rquoter]Sources: Sarkozy views Obama stance on Iran as 'utterly immature'
    By Barak Ravid
    Tags: Israel News, Nicolas Sarkozy

    French President Nicolas Sarkozy is very critical of U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama's positions on Iran, according to reports that have reached Israel's government.

    Sarkozy has made his criticisms only in closed forums in France. But according to a senior Israeli government source, the reports reaching Israel indicate that Sarkozy views the Democratic candidate's stance on Iran as "utterly immature" and comprised of "formulations empty of all content."

    Obama visited Paris in July, and the Iranian issue was at the heart of his meeting with Sarkozy. At a joint press conference afterward, Obama urged Iran to accept the West's proposal on its nuclear program, saying that Iran was creating a serious situation that endangered both Israel and the West.
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    According to the reports reaching Israel, Sarkozy told Obama at that meeting that if the new American president elected in November changed his country's policy toward Iran, that would be "very problematic."

    Until now, the five permanent members of the UN Security Council plus Germany have tried to maintain a united front on Iran. But according to the senior Israeli source, Sarkozy fears that Obama might "arrogantly" ignore the other members of this front and open a direct dialogue with Iran without preconditions.

    Following their July meeting, Sarkozy repeatedly expressed disappointment with Obama's positions on Iran, concluding that they were "not crystallized, and therefore many issues remain open," the Israeli source said. Advisors to the French president who held separate meetings with Obama's advisors came away with similar impressions and expressed similar disappointment.

    According to the Israeli source, Sarkozy plans to begin intensive negotiations with the new American administration, regardless of whether it is headed by Obama or Republican Sen. John McCain, even before the new president takes office in January, with the goal of persuading him to continue the current policy on Iran.

    But Sarkozy's pessimism does not stem only from Obama's stance; it also stems from the overall behavior of the international community toward Iran's nuclear program, and particularly its inability to agree on a fourth round of Security Council sanctions against the Islamic Republic. This foot-dragging will make it impossible to effect a change in Iran's nuclear policy, Sarkozy believes.

    The French intelligence community believes that Iran has already obtained about 40 percent of the enriched uranium it would need for its first bomb, and that at its current rate, it will obtain the rest of the uranium it needs in the spring or summer of 2009.

    However, French agencies are divided over what Iran is likely to do once it has this uranium. One view is that the Iranians will immediately make a nuclear bomb, in order to demonstrate their capability. The other is that Iran will continue enriching uranium without making a bomb - at least until it has enough enriched uranium for several bombs. [/rquoter]

    all of which makes me wonder if Biden's december surprise wouldn't be an Israeli attack on iran's nukes, figuring they'd better get it done now when they could count on american support.
     
  2. conquistador#11

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    Would have never expected a right wing supporter, like sarkozy, to say such a thing about obama. So what do we do now?
     
  3. Mr.Scarface

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/28/AR2008102803530_pf.html


    French Deny Criticism Of Obama Over Iran

    The French Embassy in Washington on Tuesday denied a report in Haaretz, a respected Israeli newspaper, that French President Nicolas Sarkozy was critical of Barack Obama's positions on Iran.

    According to Haaretz, Sarkozy told Obama when they met in July that it would be a problem if Obama changed U.S. policy and began direct talks with Iran without preconditions. The paper said Sarkozy feared Obama might ignore members of a six-nation coalition that has sought to pressure Iran to halt its uranium-enrichment program before any substantive talks could begin on a package of economic and diplomatic incentives.

    The Haaretz report was thinly sourced, attributed to "reports that have reached Israel's government," and the French Embassy called it "groundless."
     
  4. mc mark

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    Also from Haaretz.com --


    New Gallup poll shows 75% of U.S. Jews plan to vote Obama

    By Haaretz Service

    A new poll released by the Gallup organization on Thursday shows Jewish voters favor Barack Obama over John McCain by more than 3 to 1, with 74% saying they will vote for Obama over 22% for McCain.

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031176.html
     
  5. SamFisher

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    The speed with which basso is owned on this BBS has been ratcheted up considerably as of late.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Care to show me where Obama said he wouldn't support Israel.

    Of course you can't because you are just going to make your cowardly little snipes that have no basis in reality, then when someone calls you on it, you are going to run sniveling away like you always do.

    Bye. See you next thread you start when it blows up in your face.
     
  7. basso

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    is Obama on record saying he would support israel if they took out iran's nukes?
     
  8. SamFisher

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    No, and neither is McCain, and neither is the Bush Administration, to my knowledge. There's not really a lot of difference between any of them here.

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24437864-7583,00.html

    I could explain why it's not wise to make pronouncements like this . . . but no point. Pwn and run is enough here.
     
  9. pgabriel

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    the socialism issue isn't working, so now he's moving back to being a hawk
     
  10. rimrocker

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    And I thought we didn't care what foreigners think... not to mention that they should stay out of our elections.
     
  11. Rocketman95

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    It's kinda cute. I wake up every morning what the issue of the day will be for the those aboard the Titanic known as the Republican party.

    We should get a pool going for the next 6 days.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    Sam already answered this.

    But it also begs the question... What nukes? Iran has no nuclear weapons.
     
  13. Faos

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    Joe Biden nailed it months ago.

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  14. jopatmc

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    ..............a total crock of crap.



    Any reasonably sane person knows this is impossible.
     
  15. rimrocker

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    Obama's running slightly ahead of those numbers in FL.
     

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