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Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by xiki, Feb 1, 2005.

  1. xiki

    xiki Member

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    This claims they want to move a half dozen, b ut keep saying 'No' to offers. What do Raps really want?

    http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...970081562040&DPL=IvsNDS/7ChAX&tacodalogin=yes

    Feb. 1, 2005. 01:00 AM


    Raptors' trade list almost half-dozen
    Obvious who doesn't fit into team's future Babcock has string of clubs to talk to before Feb. 24

    DOUG SMITH SPORTS REPORTER

    It's clear that Donyell Marshall, Lamond Murray, Aaron Williams and perhaps Eric Williams and even Milt Palacio are not in the long-term Raptor plans centred on turning the team into something more than mere playoff participants.

    None are young enough, or under contract for long enough, or good enough, or interested enough in sticking around for the years that the process will take, so general manager Rob Babcock has just 24 days now to start moving them and give coach Sam Mitchell something better to work with.

    And some of those moveable parts continue to attract great interest around the NBA, even from opposing players during games.

    Marshall would unquestionably welcome a deal, although he has never publicly expressed a desire to be moved. But seeing his minutes yo-yo from one game to the next — a difficult role to accept for someone who thrives on consistent playing time — can be doing nothing to make him consider Toronto a long-term proposition.

    The San Antonio Spurs have been added to the list of suitors for Marshall, offering backup big man Malik Rose in return. However, Rose has an untenable contract — three years and almost $20 million (all figures U.S.) — and lacks the athleticism Mitchell wants.

    The Heat remain strong suitors, strong enough that sources say players on the Miami team are mystified that Babcock has refused all entreaties for Marshall so far and let the veteran Raptor know that during a game in Toronto last week.

    But the Heat offers, which include journeyman backup centre Michael Doleac, has done nothing to catch Babcock's attention.

    And if there's one trait the general manager has displayed more than any other since his arrival, it's patience.

    He is likely to weigh any offer until much closer to the Feb.24 trade deadline before acting.

    Murray, with one season remaining on his contract, will be in the same position a year from now that Marshall is in today, and there's no question he'll leave as a free agent as soon as he can.

    He also doesn't have the speed, or enthusiasm, that Mitchell wants and it's become apparent that young Matt Bonner is moving ahead of both Marshall and Murray in the rotation.

    "Matt's been great for us," Mitchell said recently.

    "He's been a diamond in the rough."

    Aaron Williams, who can opt out of his contract this summer, has become little more than a bit player, while Eric Williams has been a disappointment recently.
     
  2. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Sounds like everyone is lowballing Toronto. Doesnt surprise me. I am sure the offers will be increased as the deadline draws near.

    Tronoto would be wise not to take back a lot of years of salary unless they are getting a difference maker. Otherwise they should just stand pat and let the salaries come off the books.
     
  3. xiki

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    DM for MR is a joke (due to contract statuses). But, MR for MoT I could be happy with.

    I would have liked the article to have articulated what Raps are trying to do in the trade market -- a straight dump, or a philosophical effort?
     
  4. AroundTheWorld

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    This trade cannot be done before Feb. 17:

    Houston trades: PF Maurice Taylor (7.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 23.8 minutes)
    PG Reece Gaines (2.6 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 10.8 minutes)
    Houston receives: C Alonzo Mourning (10.4 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.4 minutes)
    PF Donyell Marshall (10.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 23.6 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +10.3 ppg, +8.2 rpg, and +0.1 apg.

    Toronto trades: C Alonzo Mourning (10.4 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.4 minutes)
    PF Donyell Marshall (10.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 23.6 minutes)
    Toronto receives: PF Maurice Taylor (7.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 23.8 minutes)
    PG Reece Gaines (2.6 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 10.8 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -10.3 ppg, -8.2 rpg, and -0.1 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to Houston and Toronto being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Houston and Toronto had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
     
  5. Rivaldo2181

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    What is going on with Mourning anyways? I heard he and Jim Jackson were training together before JJ was traded to the Suns. Anyone know? Peace.
     

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