Official Vigilante Justice Thread: update: New York vigilantes beat dudes who punch women

As i said I'm very for people defending themselves but I will repeat again. It is a bad idea for civillians to act as law enforcement for a lot of reasons.

This isn't about having sympathy or empathy for criminals. This is about your own legal and personal safety. With so many weapons it's just as possible that the criminal is faster or just luckier than the crime stopper and ends up killing the crime stopper. Consider in the case of the guy who hosed the homeless woman down. What if she pulls a knife on him and stabs him?

The first rule of self-defense is to never put yourself in a situation where you have to physically defend yourself. Becoming a vigilante is the opposite of that.

 

Yes in a home invasion where you can't retreat yes force used in self-defense is reasonable. It's a bad idea to go looking for danger because you want to be a vigilante.

 

You don’t have to “look” for danger in inner city Chicago on public transportation. That dude was prepared and is alive. Doesn’t sound like he was “looking” for anything.

 

We’re talking about vigilantes. Yes if there is a situation where your life or others are threatened and there is no other option you should use force even lethal force. That isn’t the same as being a vigilante.

 

I hear they're having a good time with vigilante worshiping in Brazil and the Philipines, places we could look to for inspiration.


Keep your piece and keep the peace y'all

 

No but your comment that I was responding to is just so captain obvious. I’m not sure anyone needs that distinction that you made. You were saying its ok to protect yourself during a home invasion but not to go look for trouble like a vigilante would.

 

I live right outside Chicago and spend 3-4 days a week in Chicago.

There have been 42 homicides in Chicago so far this year, of those 42 murders, 40 of them have been from guns. Two have been women stabbed to death.

So, it looks like 96% of murders so far have been from a gun thus far.

So far of the 42 homicides in Chicago.......

White men: 1
White women: 2

Hispanic men: 3
Hispanic women: 3

Indian men: 1

Black men: 27
Black women: 5

So... 66% homicides in the city of Chicago this year are black men...... nearly 80% of all homicides in Chicago this year are black....

Every single homicide in 2023 in Chicago has taken place in one of the same 10 neighborhoods.

Chicago outside of the poorer areas of town are as safe as Western Europe.

I suppose it depends on how you choose to look at it... I personally find it something Chicago needs to fix.... but there are a LOT of people living in the top 75% of the city that like the status quo.

 

Yeah.... fwiw if you are being robbed on a crowded train in Chicago, you probably shouldn't pull out a gun and have a shoot out on the train. That is very dangerous.

 

The title of this thread has the word "Vigilante" in it.

 

And the original post is about the guy in chicago who had to defend himself. Did you think you needed to clear up for us what “vigilante” means?

 

Apparently I do since I'm mentioned in the orginal post and I was responding to a post about a home invasion. But let me ask you. Why do you think the title of this thread is "Official-vigilante-justice-thread" if we shouldn't be talking about "vigilantes"?

 

So then in your opinion he is a vigilante?

 

ok. One more time. I am utterly confused as to why you thought you had to differentiate between self defense in a home invasion and vigilantism. Just curious as to why you are giving that rather obvious breakdown. I would say most people here (hopefully) already understand the difference between those two very different things. Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you meant. In fact, I’m sure I am misunderstanding so carry on. Sorry.