http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/134351481_mcdermott09m0.html Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 12:56 a.m. Pacific McDermott first U.S. lawmaker to criticize attack By Kevin Galvin and John Hendren Seattle Times Washington bureau WASHINGTON — Breaking bipartisan solidarity on Capitol Hill, Rep. Jim McDermott yesterday criticized the U.S.-led attacks on military targets in Afghanistan, questioning whether President Bush had "thought this action out completely or fully examined America's cause." The Seattle Democrat issued a two-paragraph statement that suggested Bush and his military advisers reacted too quickly to the Sept. 11 suicide jet attacks against the Pentagon and World Trade Center. The statement was the first public criticism of the retaliatory strikes by a federal lawmaker. As U.S. and British jets dropped bombs on anti-aircraft batteries, airports and other targets controlled by the ruling Taliban government for a second day, the seven-term Democrat drew a parallel with the 1991 bombardment of Iraq. "The destruction of the infrastructure did not work in Iraq a decade ago," McDermott said in the statement. "This sounds an awful lot like Iraq. Saddam Hussein is still in power! It is Iraq's citizenry, not Saddam, which continues to suffer the consequences of those air and missile strikes during the Gulf War and the sanctions we subsequently imposed against that nation." White House officials did not return calls seeking comment. The rest of the state's congressional delegation expressed support for the bombings. Criticism of a military action during a time of heightened nationalism might come back to haunt most politicians, but McDermott, an outspoken liberal whose district is primarily in the city of Seattle, has one of the safest seats in Congress. He was overwhelmingly reelected without GOP opposition in 2000. As an indication of how liberal the district is, the Green Party candidate got nearly 20 percent of the vote. This week's airstrikes drew public support perhaps not seen since World War II for an American military action. An ABC News-Washington Post poll said 94 percent of Americans supported the strikes against Taliban targets in Afghanistan. The poll of 506 randomly selected adults, interviewed by telephone Sunday night, had a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. In an interview yesterday, the congressman said he had not received significant public feedback during the Columbus Day holiday and did not consider the public reaction before taking his stand. "I simply raise the question of whether this is the thing to do," McDermott said. "To simply say that whatever the president wants to do is right is not to use your own critical faculties. And the people of the 7th District elected me to represent them and to think on their behalf on the basis of what I know." McDermott, who voted against authorizing then-President Bush to use force in the Persian Gulf War a decade ago, last month voted in favor of authorizing the younger Bush to respond to attacks that left nearly 6,000 dead. The only member of Congress to oppose the measure was Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Calif. "He's a hypocrite," said Chris Vance, Washington state Republican Party chairman. "I can understand the left standing up against past military actions in Vietnam and Panama and even the Gulf. "But here, the president is striking back against people who physically attacked America, and even then Jim McDermott doesn't want to use military force." McDermott was interviewed on KIRO radio yesterday afternoon, prompting what host Dori Monson said was the most immediate negative response he'd experienced on his show. Monson said sentiment was running 20-1 against the statement. But he noted that several callers who voted for McDermott said they were supporting the congressman. Hollis Giammatteo, a strong McDermott supporter, said the remarks were exactly what she would expect from the congressman. "I'm relieved that there's a dissenting voice among the citizenry right now," she said. "Patriotism becomes dangerous when it doesn't allow all points of view." The bombing, said Tim McBeth, who tends to vote Democratic, "is something we need to do. But this country is built on free speech. If McDermott wants to say those things, he should be able to." McDermott said that he and many other members of Congress considered voting with Lee last month but wanted to support the president and give him a free hand to act. "In this case, I couldn't bring myself to vote no. He has to have the power to do something, and at that time it wasn't clear what was going on," McDermott said. At the time, he said Bush should act slowly and thoughtfully. Yesterday, McDermott criticized the speed with which the president acted and his decision to notify only a handful of congressional leaders. "I miss the point of needing to strike now. He has not made that clear to anybody, either in his public statements or anything I've heard in the Congress," he said. In his written statement, McDermott took issue with what he perceived as a lack of planning. "I am not so sure that we have fully developed a comprehensive strategic plan. It has been less than a month since the terrorist attacks against our country. A scant four weeks to plan and implement an operation like this doesn't seem like a very long time to me." McDermott did not address the differences between the extensive air-defense system and the large number of troops that defended Iraq during the Gulf War and the Taliban's limited military infrastructure. He cautioned against celebrating too soon any measure of success from the air campaign. "It smacks of certain arrogance we can ill afford at this crucial juncture in our nation's history," his statement said. "I'm not so sure President Bush, members of his administration or the military have thought this action out completely or fully examined America's cause." Seattle Times staff reporter John Zebrowski contributed to this report. Copyright © 2001 The Seattle Times Company
He's right in a way. If we only do airstrikes, then we have another Iraq situation and what good does it do? Are we going to police Afghanistan like we police Iraq for decades to come? How long will countries support this? They are already wanting the sanctions lifted off of Iraq. And, in the end, we only end up hurting the civilians. Even if we don't mean to, then those evil governments will make it happen that way. Just ask Saddam. My understanding is that the airstrikes are only the pre-cursor to a getting special forces and ground troops in there to do some real damage. If we don't plan on using ground troops, then we are wasting our time. The Northern Alliance is not going to be able to do it alone and even with our airstrikes. It's also bad how the US calls this a long term war but most other countries think this will be a short term thing and will probably jump off the bandwagon at some point. If we do not win in Afghanistan by removing the Taliban and getting the terrorists, then we lose the war. We probably see less freedom, more terrorist attacks, more martyrs, and more of the same. We start there and take it to these other countries harboring terrorists. But, if we do not solve the root of the problem in Afghanistan, then we will never truly win this new war. Surf
What solution did McDermott suggest? I didn't see one. Is he saying, "I'm evidently the only one who has thought this through? Everyone else is blindly following the president"? Give me a break. We waited almost a month before attacking, does he think everyone was sitting around picking their nose instead of thinking this through during that time? Would he rather us go over there and give everyone a big hug? We're trying to do what we can to keep people from starving. Did he not know about the air drops? He obviously can see the difference between this and Iraq, otherwise why change the way he voted? Does he really believe that we will be content until Afghanistan is returned to its people, rather than a terrorist-supporting tyrannical government? Random questions.
At least he's honest. Would we all prefer he just lied and said he was in total agreement? I thought that was the reason we were all supposed to hate Clinton. We don't have to agree, but at least he spoke his mind.
Honest? I wonder how "honest" he would be if his district was in rural Kansas, not a liberal Seattle? I'm sorry, but I just do not understand how someone can be against removing this threat. 6,000 Americans die, and some people still don't think we should do anything. If there was ever a war that had to be fought, this is it.
What you said was how you felt. Why would you ask that he agree with you if he doesn't? Would you prefer he lied to you? He doesn't live in Kansas and I don't care where you live, his words cannot be popular. He's taking heat in his home district too. You can't honestly tell me that you think he considered disagreeing with 94% of Americans to be a good move politically! All I'm saying is that the reason we have freedom of expression is so we CAN say what we believe even if most of the rest of America disagrees with us.
I respect that he has a right to say what he feels, but I don't see his solution down there. Does he have one? He criticizes Bush for "acting to quickly", what did he want the guy to do, wait until they kill a few more thousand people and THEN act? What is his solution? Sit down with milk and cookies and talk to Osama bin Laden? I don't mean to be sarcastic, but the President has a ton job and tough decisions, it isn't like he said "Lets bomb them now!" It's easy to criticize something without a solution, and I didn't see one idea of his. And this comment: <b>"It smacks of certain arrogance we can ill afford at this crucial juncture in our nation's history," his statement said. "I'm not so sure President Bush, members of his administration or the military have thought this action out completely or fully examined America's cause." </b> I'm curious, has HE thought it out? Fully examined America's cause? The "cause" is getting rid of a mass murderer. And him calling it arrogant. I wonder if he bothered to go down to ground zero and tell this to the family and friends of the victim. I want to see him actually get some guts and go down there and tell the family and friends of the victims that the U.S. is arrogant for doing what they're doing. Afterall Bush actually took the time to go down there and talk to people. Even former president Clinton went down there.
I guess I just have a hard time taking anything any politician says at face value. You don't trust the media, I don't trust politicians... There's no denying that his district is extremely liberal. Lee's district (Berkely) was also extremely liberal, and extremely pacifist. You don't think that it's a coincidence that both dissenters happen to represent liberal districts, do you? The fact that 94% of Americans disagree with him is irrelevant. If 45% or more of his district agrees with him - and apparently they do, or at least won't hold it against him - then it is a very good political move. If that's what he truly believes, fine. Of course he has a right to say what he believes, every American must have that right - including our leaders. I just never take anything that comes out of any politician's mouth at face value. And I don't think that altruism exists in the world of politics. I guess I'm just a cynical ahole...