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Maverick: Dems love 'im

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Aug 7, 2008.

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  1. basso

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    Bush: McCain loves 'im

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  3. Batman Jones

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    This is an exceptionally poor move from McCain. It not only throws the door open (and, really, off the hinges) wrt talking about how profoundly he's flip-flopped on the most profound issues, and for political purposes -- it veritably forces the Obama campaign to hammer him on it.

    It was already clear to me that McCain preferred talking character to talking issues, but I had no idea how much. It seems he'd rather have a conversation about the flimsiness of his own principles than the economy. So be it. He'll get one now.
     
  4. basso

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    i'm not sure you responded in the right thread, since your response has little to do with McCain's ad, but if so, i disagree. Obama opened this door w/ his pre-emptive charge of racism, and the magical mystery tour. McCain has lept into the opening offered, and by all acounts it appears to be a pretty godd strategy.
     
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    basso once agian proves Obama right! Take pride basso! Take PRIDE!!!
     
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    Bad move on McCain's part..He is going to make himself look really bad, by his ow words.I like the video he posted from the dems, but his own words negate anything they have said about him in the past.
     
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    The DNC response ad features the same Dems from the McCain ad making the point that he used to be a maverick, but is now a "maverick no more."

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  8. Batman Jones

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    I love to say I told you so, asso. So, I told you so.
     
  9. El_Conquistador

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    Hillary: McCain has the experience to lead. Obama has a speech that he gave in 2002.

    BEAUTIFUL

    Hillary's 18,000,000 voters, please take note. Your candidate thinks Obama is a joke. And Bill hates Obama's guts.
     
  10. Batman Jones

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    I love to say I told you so, asso. So, I told you so.
     
  11. basso

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    thanks for making my point...twice
     
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    when in reality, it's Obama that loves him some bush:

    [rquoter]"I spoke up against the administration and Congress and Sen. Obama when they gave us an energy bill with more than giveaways to big oil and really no solution to our energy problems," McCain said. "I want to take a minute here on this issue ’cause I think Sen. Obama might be a little bit confused. Yesterday he accused me of having President Bush's policies on energy. That's odd because he voted for the president's energy bill and I voted against it."[...]

    "It had $2.8 billion in corporate welfare to big oil companies and they're already making record profits as you know," McCain said of the 2005 energy bill. "Sen. Obama voted for that bill, and it's big oil giveaways. I know he hasn't been in the senate that long, but even in the real world, voting for something -- voting for something means your support, and voting against something means you oppose it."[/rquoter]
     
  13. Batman Jones

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    Ooohhh... You got me... I have a ****ty internet connection so sometimes I post things twice. That obviously proves everything I ever say wrong and everything you ever say (plagiarized as per usual or not as per very rarely) right. Also, yes, I use profane language sometimes like 99% of the world. I don't, however, sink to the level of saying anyone here wants people to die or is a traitor to their country like you love to do. I would never post anything here as offensive as that.

    McCain is INSANE to bring up his "maverick" status from 8 years gone. All it serves to do now is shine a light on what a hypocrite he's been ever since.

    The Dem response was pretty good, but it really should have included McCain's appearance on Fox where he said he'd voted with Bush more than 90% of the time. Some maverick.
     
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    Seriously, if you knew much about politics, you'd know that there are a very large number of bills that are non-controversial. If you were to look at just the 'hot-button' issues, this stat would be much lower. Heck, I bet Obama votes alongside Bush a fair amount -- oopsie, his 140 days in office aren't quite a representative sample...

    Who voted for the Bush/Cheney energy bill? McCain or Obama? Oh yes, it was Obama.


    OWNED
     
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    ^^^
    I ****ing love the way that the worst insult either side can hurl is to compare his opponent to Bush. Poor George.
     
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    thanks for bringing that up:

    The Dark Knight:
    "America is no longer what it once was."

    The Dark Lord:
    "The Republic is no longer what it once was."
     
  17. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm not surprised a lot of Democrats like McCain. They just happen to like Obama more.
     
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    Pesonally I think this is most substantive criticism of Obama I've seen in about two weeks. I think this is an important question regarding why Obama voted for the energy bill as compared to whether his birth certificate is faked.
     
  19. Batman Jones

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    A lot of Democrats liked McCain. That was before he sold out on tax cuts for the filthy rich, immigration, torture and "the agents of intolerance" and hired the protege of the same guy that killed his own 2000 campaign with slanderous lies to throw the exact same stuff at Obama.

    The McCain that Democrats (and Independents) liked has nothing in common with the one that's running this time around. McCain 2000 wouldn't even shake the hand of McCain 2008.
     
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    What a ridiculous pack of lies.

    Obama, August 2008 wouldn't even shake the hand of Obama, May 2008. FISA, offshore drilling, the surge, public financing, etc... You don't have a leg to stand on, Bats...

    It's sad how once critical thinking libs have abandoned their principles in favor of the cotton candy, riding on unicorns, happy-hopey-make-changey platform of Obama. To throw one's support behind such an empty candidate really does prove it is blind zombie-following loyalty to party that is more important than issues and experience for the libs...
     

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