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Hartenstein' first game

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by snowconeman22, Oct 21, 2018.

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  1. snowconeman22

    snowconeman22 Member

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    Thoughts ?

    I thought he played pretty well . Yes , he had that one big mistake ... rookies will make rookie mistakes .

    He also showed good activity , was able to finish in the PnR and set screens so harden could get downhill and find him . Yes , harden set him up amazingly ... but hart still had to be in the right position .

    Defensively, he got put in the popcorn machine a couple of times and held his own a couple of times .... he's a rookie 7 footer what do you expect ?

    I liked his overall awareness on both ends of the floor.

    I'd say he earned a B , maybe a B- .... but he's definitely serviceable and should improve .

    Given rebounding has been one of our biggest problems this year . I would put him into the rotation and give him backup C minutes unless the other team is making a concerted effort to go really small .

    Plus , the more he plays at the 5 ... the more PJ can play at the 4 ... which means the less Melo we have to see .
     
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    I agree. He made a really stupid mistake but he was better than Melo at the 5 overall.
     
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    The best hope is that Hartenstein can shoot . In which case we can play him at the 4
     
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    D minus for that rookie mistake cost us the game
     
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    Solid Debut. Potential to be a good rotation player. Obviously is gonna have to keep playing to get a better feel.
     
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    He can't be a real 7-footer.
     
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    That's a little harsh and we had plenty of time to recoup those points.
     
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    If he had not made that one mistake what would his grade be ?
     
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    C minus, his defense wasn't well, i doubt he was as good as decker in the same period last year
     
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    I think that's a bit harsh , but hey .. you are entitled to your option . Dekker is more of a wing so of course one should expect him to look better guarding the perimeter.
     
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    He was ok. No lateral quickness.....we need to stop all the switching
     
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    Agreed, he look ok for his first game, Gortat and Boban are not exactly scrubs or guys easy to handle for a rookie. For a comparison i think D.Mo looked much worse in his first games.

    On a side note, i just don't get why Clark didn't see the floor and got shut down after 3 minuts in the first half...
     
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    bbq chicken. if at age 20 he can't stay in front of anyone, he'll never be able to. this mutt is a fuking waste of our time. just like nanu and the countless other scrubs morey has dicked around on the past decade
     
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    I think Clark had 3 quick fouls . Also my guess is that Clark was playing backup 5 ... and when Hartenstein did OK in the first half ... he took those mins from Clark in the second .

    Clark should be at the 3/4 .... MDA needs to stop trying to make every player who is 6'7" and strong a small ball 5 .
     
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    we need length when capella is out cuz goin small isn’t goin work like last season.


    I didn’t think Melo was anywhere near a defensive solidly before he came but he’s more underwhelming defensively then even I expected and set the bar below Harden
     
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    He made some layups but his mistake was CRUCIAL. He can't be doing that in a tight game. Y'all finger point some guys for everything but gives guys like Hartenstein a pass. Is he the new DMo?
     
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    Dude , you need to chill out lol .

    We are all pissed right now , but don't bring that **** into places where people are trying to have productive discussions .
     
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    please specify what exactly you're complaining about from my post
     
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    wait i noticed i referred to fartenstein as mutt, that wasn't any reference to his mixed heritage if that's what you meant, just another way of referring to him as a scrub -- so sorry about that
     
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    The entire thing ....

    Are you really saying he has zero redeeming qualities? That he can't contribute at all ?

    This was his first NBA game and he made plenty of plays that had a positive impact ... he also made poor plays . Given that he's a rookie and this is his first game ... I felt that was To be expected .

    He did manage to stay in front of several plays ... he also got blown by once or twice . He has to learn the distance he can give on the perimeter... to expect him to know that his first attempt is unreasonable. Perhaps switching him onto Lou Williams is a bad idea . How many backup c's are gonna stay in front of him . The Tobias Harris dunk looked bad .... but ya know what ... Harris is underrated , and hartenstein will learn from that .

    Also you brought Morey into it which is pretty off topic

    Edit ... no worries on the mutt thing , I knew you were just using it as an expression .
     
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