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Democrats and the Military

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by gwayneco, May 19, 2006.

  1. gwayneco

    gwayneco Contributing Member

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    May is Military Appreciation Month, and in the spirit of bipartisanship, I thought it would be cool to look at some quotes from Democrats showing their appreciation for the military,

    John Kerry:
    “And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the--of--the historical customs, religious customs.”

    Dick Durbin:
    “If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.”

    John Murtha:
    “Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.”
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Which of those statements do you disagree with. Do you think any of the actions discussed in those statements are good things?

    I think those statements go very much to preserving the honor of the military and addressing the wrongs, that taint our great military's honor.

    Good for Murtha, Kerry, and Durbin. I hope they keep up the good work, and continue working towards preserving the honor of the United States Military.
     
  3. MadMax

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    the military is good and pure in and of itself. never question it.

    what could possibly go wrong?
     
  4. jo mama

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    are any of them wrong in their assertions?

    btw, 2 of the 3 mentioned here are military

    also, how do you feel about president bush trying to cut troop combat pay, death benefits to soldiers families and cutting into veterans budgets?

    further proof that neocons have no sense of irony
     
  5. GladiatoRowdy

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    And he was right. There is no reason that American soldiers need to be breaking into homes in the dead of night, nor for breaking religious customs.

    Do you know that he apologized for that statement?

    And there is no disputing that this is 100% true.

    Do you have a problem with people telling the truth or reporting facts?
     
  6. wnes

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    Where's the quote from Osama?
     
  7. RocketMan Tex

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    Gwayneco....do you enjoy touching your toes while naked? :D

    "I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency." --Vice President Dick Cheney, on the Iraq insurgency, June 20, 2005

    "My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators." –Vice President Dick Cheney, "Meet the Press," March 16, 2003

    "Ladies and gentlemen, these are not assertions. These are facts, corroborated by many sources, some of them sources of the intelligence services of other countries." –Secretary of State Colin Powell, testifying about Iraq's chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons capabilities before the United Nations Security Council, Feb. 5, 2003

    "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." –President Bush, standing under a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the USS Lincoln aircraft carrier, May 2, 2003
     
  8. gwayneco

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    I'm still waiting for a positive quote about the military from one of y'all.
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    LOL, keep waiting. Positive quotes about the military doesn't fit their agenda/script.

    ...and liberals wonder why others question their commitment to the troops/military?
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    At the top of the first post in the thread, you mentioned that you thought it would be cool to discuss some quotes from Democrats.

    That is what we were doing.

    I didn't realize that you wanted us to chime in with our own positive quotes.

    But I will play along. I think the soldier who, in the face of adversity from his own fellows in Abu Ghraib, stuck by military regulations, and reported the abuses going on there, in order to help preserve what is right and the good name of the military should receive a medal. It was heroic duty, and shows courage enough to do the right thing. Well done, soldier.
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    What an asinine thread.

    "Say you love America. Right now. SAY IT!! SAY IT OR SHUT UP!!!"

    Aaron McGruder would be proud.
     
  12. gwayneco

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    But they doing enjoy making mountains out of molehills. To wit:
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=96794&highlight=tank
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    This is another story that I had posted long ago. It is a tale of some of the good work our soldiers are doing in Iraq. I don't remember if bigtexxx even had one comment in that thread.

    Anyway you can read it, but there is even more to it if you listen to the audio of the story. It is great stuff.

    It is from NPR.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1964381
     
  14. gifford1967

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    Don't you find being a complete tool all of the time really exhausting?
     
  15. gwayneco

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    I'm glad you posted the second link below, but this post more accurately relects the liberal mindset on things military. The first positive thing you had to say in support of the military was to praise a soldier who revealed the wrong-doing of other soldiers. Yes, he deserves praise, but it very conveniently fits into the anti-military template that liberals have. The anti-war protesters have been known to take it a step further by saying "We support the troops - when they frag their officers."
     
  16. SamFisher

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    I'll support the military, AS LONG AS TEHY KEEP HANDING TEH VICTORIES TO TEH J1HADISTS!!11!!!!
     
  17. pgabriel

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    how about this military spending increased under clinton, bush sent them to iraq with no body armor
     
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    Being against War for Halliburton is not the same as being against the troops.

    One of my best friends in High School was a marine in Desert Storm. My brothers best friend in school is still in the military. Btw before the latter attained a little rank, he was full time, active duty and was on food stamps...and I think that is an abomination.

    We brought down a brutal dictator which is a good thing (even if we drubbed up public support for it using fear and false pretenses.) Now we need to let Iraq fire up its fledgling Democracy...even if they elect (GASP) someone who isn't the USA's first choice.
     
  19. mc mark

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    So gweenie did you start this thread to appreciate the military or bash democrats?
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    Both of the things I mentioned were in praise of the military. I wasn't aware that only certain praise of the military was acceptable, while other praise is not really ok. I think taking steps to correct mistakes and get rid of the bad apples that give the military reputation a black eye is a good thing. We should be doing that.

    I think I showed two examples of good work done by folks in the military. The second story was a great example that countered the Abu Ghraib stuff that we hear about so much. It was soldiers being effective, and yet not violating regulations, or at least being called to task when they did.

    Your example of the few protestors who support the fragging of the officers strain are the anit-war's equivalent of the pro-war side who often say let's just flatten the whole area, and other ignorant statements like that. Trying to generalize a whole movement because of the actions of a few doesn't do either side anygood.
     

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