"In some ways, this controversy has actually shaken me up a little bit and gotten me back into remembering that the odds of me getting elected have always been lower than some of the other conventional candidates," the Illinois senator told CNN's Anderson Cooper in an exclusive one-on-one interview." http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/19/obama.interview/index.html Obama will play whatever card, including race, he needs to so he can get elected. Just like Hillary or anyone else.
The easiest way to describe him as unconventional is that he hasn't been a part of Washington very long, or doesn't come from a governor background. Another way is to look at the fact he's incredibly young for a presidential candidate. You can knock him on both if you'd like (experience & age - many do obviously), and other posters may bring up more personal qualities of his that make him stand out, but I do think those two facts make him less conventional than Hillary or McCain.
I just find it hilarious that someone would take one line out of some insigficant interview that the only reason its seen by anyone other than the thread starter is because the thread starter started the thread and try to accuse obama of playing any card. that's the stupidity
An interview can become significant depending on what is answered. I think it is unwise for him to making excuses at this stage. It is more understandable if he is really trailing.
No way. Race wasn't the first idea I had when he said unconventional. His first appeal is as a change candidate by working from the grassroots up. In that respect, he's similar to Ron Paul by gaining momentum through unconventional means. Hillary has been adopting change, but her approach is top bottom. The second aspect was his unconventional approach to dealing with the Wright controversy. Instead of distancing further from the Reverend, he cemented his ties to the person and for the voting electorate as it is going right now, that has been implying guilt by association. If anything I feel his lament would be his second guessing on cutting all ties with Wright.
Nice. Rather than just claiming someone is stupid for having another take, you make a well reasoned argument. Bravo. However, I don't think so. When he says the odds have always been against him, on the heels of the pastor uproar, I don't think he's talking about being outside DC. The last two Presidents have been from outside DC. Neither of the other candidates are governors either. He could be talking about being young I guess but again the timing seems to be highly coincidental for that. I don't think you can really argue he's gotten momentum from unconventional means - he gave a speech at the last democratic convention for crying out loud. He's a US Senator.
you didn't give an argument to debate. you just took a line out of an interview and claimed he was playing the race card. that's stupid
You're stupid. Wow, that's a great response. For a 1st grader. I provided a quote from Obama and then made a statement about that quote. This is the debate and discussion forum, genius. Looks like other posters understood and gave their take. You just engage in ad hom attacks, which are not valid arguments, nor do they advance discussion. Congratulations.
you made an accusation. you didn't analyze the quote. the quote proves nothing without an analysis. he said he was unconventional. last time I checked he claimed his whole campaign was unconventional, unifying. the problem with wright is he is divisive. so you have the unconventional unifying vs. the conventional divisiveness. the quote you provide said nothing about race and you wanted to use that to make a statement about him as politician. you only saw what you wanted, which is stupid.
Yes. I provided a quote and a statement so people could post their opinions. And? OK. Glad you have an opinion. Since the point of the forum is to debate and discuss, you could have had this as your response, instead of your frantic personal attacks. Yes. He is a politician. Very good. Glad you're catching up. I stated above my reasoning. I haven't seen anything that makes me reconsider. A little silly for you to accuse me of not having any reasoning post me giving it, lol. Until this post, you've only made ad hom attacks (although you also do it in this post). Those are boorish at best. Childish and irritating at worst. For you to chide someone else about their posting credibility is pretty ironic. My thread title isn't sarcastic. I believe Obama is a politician in the pejorative sense, and that he maneuvers just as other politicians like Hillary and McCain do.
I do think race is part of his "unconventional"-ness, but there's also a lot more to it: 1. He ran a campaign centered on appealing to youth and new voters - generally not a method of success (see Howard Dean). 2. He ran a campaign based on an internet and social-networking grassroots set up - first time it's been done successfully (Howard Dean tried) 3. He ran a primary campaign based on appealing to the middle, and dragging in Independents/Republicans - the normal strategy for success is to run to the left in the primaries to appeal to the hardcore Dem voters.
there was nothing to debate it wasn't personal, the take is stupid the point was after months of campaigning, you took a meaningless quote from an interview to try to define his whole candidacy when this is the one candidate who has to walk a thin line everyday on race and he's done a pretty damn fine job of it you didn't state your reasoning in the original post, which made the accusation stupid since it was based on one line out of this guy's entire campaign kind of like your first post that had nothing but a baseless none supported accusation but I guess at least your sophisticated the title is sarcastic and condescending as you meant it
