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Adventure in voting irregularities

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Feb 6, 2008.

  1. basso

    basso Contributing Member
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    Stuff like this has happened to me in New York, and did to a friend of mine yesterday.

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    [rquoter]My Adventures in Voting Irregularities
    How 'My' Vote Likely Landed in Clinton Column

    Posted by Ken Wheaton on 02.05.08 @ 12:39 PM

    Come a little closer. I have a secret for you. I know many of you labor hard to believe that there's such a thing as an unbiased journalist (especially when said journalist mostly agrees with you). But the fact of the matter is, while the jury's still out on whether journalists have souls, more often than not, they have party affiliations. Mine happens to be -- are you sitting down for this -- Republican. (As evidence that this doesn't inordinately sway my work, I'll point out that I've been called a filthy, godless liberal by commenters and e-mailers more often than the inverse). At any rate, I'm pretty sure that my vote this morning in New York's Republican primary ended up going to ... Hillary Clinton. How did this happen?

    As much as I love Brooklyn, I've come to expect polling-place workers in Kings County to be exemplars of incompetency bordering on corruption. This morning was no different.

    Allow me to explain. I showed up at my polling place -- Global Studes, 284 Baltic Street/ Election District: 93 -- at approximately 8:15 a.m. Directly in front of me in line were two people being informed by the poll workers that "If you haven't voted in four years you automatically fall off the rolls." That sounded suspiciously like the explanation offered by the sort of person who is simply incapable of saying "I don't know what happened" and instead makes up an official sounding answer. So I wasn't exactly expecting much.

    As luck would have it, I was in the book. So I slide into the voting booth and go to the pull the lever and ... nothing. It doesn't budge. I try again. Out of curiosity I lightly pull on one of the Democratic candidates' levers. That seems to be working fine. I stick my head out of the booth and tell the guy there's a problem. I tell him I'm a registered Republican, at which point he announces to the entire table, "Oh, this guy's a Republican," as if it's been six generations since they've seen such a thing. In fact, one of the other workers says, "A Republican? Really?"

    I want to make it clear: This wasn't a case of voter intimidation. It wasn't as if the poll workers said, "Ewwww, is there slime coming out of his butt" or "Oh, so that's what Satan smells like." No, it was more a sound of amazement. I suddenly knew what the Great White Buffalo feels like. That said, I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to announce a voter's affiliation across the polling place. You'd think the Board of Elections would cover that in the classes it gives to poll workers.

    So the guy fidgets with the outside of the booth, then comes back and STEPS INTO THE BOOTH WITH ME. "Go ahead and try it now," he says, watching over my shoulder. I reach for the lever and ... nothing. "Hold on," he says, and steps outside of the booth, fiddles with the machine, steps back into the booth and says, "Now try." Lather, rinse, repeat. I suggest maybe the big lever that registers the vote might have to be reset for this to work. At first he says no, but then changes his mind. "Well, we'll just have to throw in a vote," he says.

    At this point, he selects Hillary Clinton then pulls the lever. Ka-ching. One more vote for Hillary.

    We then try again. Nothing. So he gives me a paper ballot. (As an aside, the outside of the provisional ballot envelope requires that you check a box explaining why you're filling out a paper ballot. Nowhere is there a box to check for "You've obviously hired morons to work the polling station.")

    So I filled in the paper ballot and turned it in. When I did so, I asked the gentleman, "So, did that vote register for Hillary Clinton?"

    "Oh, yeah," he said. "Don't worry about it. That was my vote."

    I bet it was.

    I don't assume there are a great deal of Republicans in my district, but how many of their failed votes are going to end up registering for Hillary Clinton?

    I'm not sure this borders on outright corruption, but it says something about our system that we can't hire competent people for this task. And there were other people, probably Democrats, being forced to resort to paper ballots. (I wonder if they, too, suspected those paper ballots would never make it to wherever they were supposed to go.)

    Still, that I couldn't pull the lever at all for a Republican candidate almost defies belief.

    As it so happens, I just did my taxes and, as usual, there's a box asking if I want to fund presidential elections. To be blunt, I don't want my tax dollars advancing the causes of a sleazebag millionaire like John Edwards or a Bible-thumping rube like Mike Huckabee. And people like Mitt Romney, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton can raise their own damn money if they want to run, thank-you very much. Perhaps that space would be better used to solicit money to attract better-paid poll workers. Granted 200 bucks for a day's work -- the going rate for New York City polling-place workers -- isn't that shabby and I know the Board probably isn't in a position to turn away people, but c'mon.

    Hell, it occurred to me that if Brooklyn was using electronic voting machines, disaster would have struck. I know these folks mean well and wake up early and care about their country, but if they can't work a lever system and paper book, I shudder to think what would happen at the first malfunction of supposedly sophisticated software.

    So here's where this post at least touches on advertising. To hell with matching funds for presidential candidates, which will go to pay for crappy fast food and bad political ads. Spend the money on attracting and training polling place workers.

    Anyway, if Hillary Clinton beats Barack Obama by one vote tonight, you can blame me. [/rquoter]
     
  2. SamFisher

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    ^ It as amusing to see righties busting out the old voter-fraud chestnuts.

    Remember Alberto Gonzales? Young latino fella, who was AG way back in 2007? Voter-fraud witch hunts based on right wing hysterics didn't exactly turn out to well for him.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    The voting spot in that story was exactly where I used to vote for much of my time in NY. Luckily I never had anything like that happen to me.
     
  4. pgabriel

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    okay, that was well written and funny.
     
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    "Yeah, don't worry, that was my vote."

    Man, that pisses me off. It's so wrong. Maybe, just maybe, it was his vote. But if not that is so wrong. Voting should be a sacred act. Also, the entire "you're a republican? Really?" is total bull***t. You should remain completely neutral if you're doing this kind of work, IMO.

    I just voted in Brooklyn myself yesterday. My machine only had democrats to vote for- after all, I was voting in the democratic primary and could only vote if I was a registered democrat. I assume there was a different machine with repub candidates.
     
  6. basso

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    guy in my building, the only other republican, as far as i know, and he happens to be from ft. worth, went to vote yesterday at our precinct. they handed out green cards to democrats, and pink ones to republicans, which by itself is kinda strange, and by default, they just handed him a green card (the cards are then handed to the dude working the machine who then "sets" the machine for R or D). he had to loudly proclaim "no, i need a pink card" which caused no small amount of consternation amongst the poll workers. asimilar episode occurred for me at the same locale a few years ago.

    later in the day i walked by a clinton worker passing out cards on columbus ave. i said no thanks, "i'm voting for huckabee..." and watched her jaw dropped. she said, "if you're a registered republican, I'll vote for Huckabee," apprently, because republicans are rare as houndsteeth in this neighborhood, or she'd never actually seen one.
     
  7. basso

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    edit.
     
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    LOL WUT?

    Edit: Nice edit.
     
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    hahahahha, thank you for preserving basso's delicious glass of fail. Rep points awarded.
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    hilarious

    edit: okay, what prompted him to bring this thread back, what prompted him to respond to himself, and how did he not know who he was responding to? a D&D mystery indeed

    people in my office must be wondering what the hell i'm laughing at
     
  12. Major

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    What just happened here?
     
  13. pgabriel

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    oh okay, I see the other thread now. alright guys, he just responded to the wrong post
     
  14. justtxyank

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    It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what happened, all we need to do is Basso quoted himself and said "so, you fail."

    No other details are necessary.
     
  15. DonnyMost

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    More adventures.

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  16. basso

    basso Contributing Member
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    did you just copy that from the other thread?
     
  17. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    Nice try basso.

    I had it open on two tabs. I'm a tabbing maniac.
     
  18. basso

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    as am i- tab fail, i guess.
     
  19. Vinsanity

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    Wait. Basso bumped a year old thread to tell Basso that Basso Failed? Epic.
     

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