New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

False · Mar 16, 2015

A more macroscopic view of the issue:

No matter what your politics are or whatever political points you want to track, I think that maybe this Hillary email scandal (if on the right) / kerfluffle (if on the left) can be used as a jumping point to tackling the problem at its source. Wishful thinking is that both parties will make this part of their platform and allocate/raise the necessary funds to make it work.

The State Department is doing nothing to retain public records. Neither, others tell me, are the other federal bureaucracies. As a result, our history is vanishing into the ether. Major decisions—cataclysmic events—are happening all around us, but their causes may never be known.

In the old days, officials wrote or dictated memos to one another. Secretaries typed the memos on sheets of paper backed by two or three carbon sheets, then filed the carbons. Periodically, someone from the National Archives came by with a cart to haul the carbons away for posterity.

As a result, it’s now possible to write books about the Vietnam War, World War II, and many other events, large and small. Historians can go to the archives and read the memoranda between Defense Secretary Robert McNamara and national security adviser McGeorge Bundy (much of the Pentagon Papers consists of once-secret memos of this sort); they can read the letters between Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill, or the war plans of the Allied generals.

For the past two decades, such records have been kept only spottily, if at all. The problem is that the National Archives and Records Administration has been slow at setting rules and regulations for storing and filing digital records—and even slower at enforcing those rules.

The National Archives started the Electronic Records Archives in 2000, and funded pilot programs in 2008, but it didn’t start operating until 2012. Until that point, the National Archive had no way of dealing with Microsoft Word documents, PowerPoint presentations, or emails with attachments. Even now, as the Times story indicates, the protocols and procedures aren’t fully in place. It’s still very much a work in progress; some aspects of the new program aren’t scheduled to go into effect until the end of next year.

An internal audit, written by National Archives officials in 2005 (declassified in 2009 and summarized here), concluded that electronic records were “generally not disposed of in accordance” with federal regulations and, in particular, that many emails were “being destroyed prematurely.” The authors found several reasons for this. First, some officials were writing emails on their personal computers. (Clinton wasn’t the first to do this, but she might have been the first to do so exclusively.) Second, “because electronic records are less tangible than paper records,” officials tended not to regard them as “records needing to be filed and retired properly.” Third, in many offices, the job of “records custodian” rotated frequently and was often left vacant for long periods, and when a replacement was found, no one notified National Archives officials so they could come train the new guardian. Finally, even though the volume of digital records had exploded in recent years, the number of records custodians had declined “substantially.”

Apparently, little has changed. One archivist tells me that no one has figured out how to store email attachments. Nor does the National Archives require departments to include explanatory text with PowerPoint presentations—a severe lapse, given that PowerPoint has long been the medium of choice for defense and intelligence agencies.

In short, history is still trickling through our fingertips. Many of the officials making history—not just Clinton—ignore their obligations to posterity, while the archivists, those charged with preserving this history, shrug their shoulders and let it vanish.
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GladiatoRowdy · Mar 16, 2015

False said: ↑

A more macroscopic view of the issue:

No matter what your politics are or whatever political points you want to track, I think that maybe this Hillary email scandal (if on the right) / kerfluffle (if on the left) can be used as a jumping point to tackling the problem at its source. Wishful thinking is that both parties will make this part of their platform and allocate/raise the necessary funds to make it work.
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Yet the NSA has built a facility capable of keeping these records archived effectively forever, but chooses to use those resources to spy on Americans instead.

Commodore · Jun 30, 2015

Parade Magazine reporter offered to give Hillary veto power over story on her.

Embarrassing, he should be fired.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"She will like it" <a href="http://t.co/9I3EzPfTvu">pic.twitter.com/9I3EzPfTvu</a></p>— Jimmy (@JimmyPrinceton) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimmyPrinceton/status/616098724847071232">July 1, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Deji McGever · Jun 30, 2015

Commodore said: ↑

Parade Magazine reporter offered to give Hillary veto power over story on her.

Embarrassing, he should be fired.
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That may well have been the price of access. It's terrible, but certainly not uncommon.

prohibido · Jul 1, 2015

I am scandalized that a hard-hitting Sunday supplement such as Parade Magazine would stoop to such tactics. What next? Is Marylin vos Savant not truly a genuis?

Dairy Ashford · Jul 1, 2015

Commodore said: ↑

Parade Magazine reporter offered to give Hillary veto power over story on her.

Embarrassing, he should be fired.
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For wanting a byline interviewing a Senator and Secretary of State or trying to sell magazine copies without celebreteh gossep?

NewRoxFan · Jul 1, 2015

Commodore said: ↑

Parade Magazine reporter offered to give Hillary veto power over story on her.

Embarrassing, he should be fired.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"She will like it" <a href="http://t.co/9I3EzPfTvu">pic.twitter.com/9I3EzPfTvu</a></p>— Jimmy (@JimmyPrinceton) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimmyPrinceton/status/616098724847071232">July 1, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Wow. Parade Magazine.

Truly amazed that the Republican party has sunk to this depth.

FranchiseBlade · Jul 1, 2015

Commodore said: ↑

Parade Magazine reporter offered to give Hillary veto power over story on her.

Embarrassing, he should be fired.
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What? I can't go to Parade for my news anymore? Damn! Thank goodness this is getting the investigation it deserves.

Invisible Fan · Jul 1, 2015

I subscribe to Parade magazine for it's award winning pro-gay, Israel bashing, anti-gun agenda.

They also have great 2-for-1 coupons I frequently clip out.

TheresTheDagger · Jul 24, 2015

Inspectors general for the intelligence community and the State Department have asked the Justice Department to launch a criminal investigation into Clinton's possible mishandling of classified email. The inspectors general are independent officials who conduct audits, investigations and inspections in the agencies for which they're responsible.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/24/politics/hillary-clinton-email-justice-department/index.html

Commodore · Jul 24, 2015

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joint IG stmt on Hillary's emails: “This classified information should never have been transmitted via an unclassified personal system.”</p>— Mark Murray (@mmurraypolitics) <a href="https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/624683696503832576">July 24, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Nook · Jul 24, 2015

BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!

Commodore · Jul 24, 2015

Nook said: ↑

BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!
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What would Hillary have to do for you not to dismiss it?

I've worked in military/defense my entire career. If I set up a server at home to do work on (even unclassified), I would be fired immediately.

If classified info touched the server, I would be prosecuted.

Everyone with a clearance can be randomly polygraphed and asked if they have willfully mishandled classified information. Hillary should submit to the same.

Commodore · Aug 11, 2015

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article30714762.html
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As pressure builds on Hillary Clinton to explain her official use of personal email while serving as secretary of state, she faced new complications Tuesday. It was disclosed her top aides are being drawn into a burgeoning federal inquiry and that two emails on her private account have been classified as “Top Secret.”
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The inspector general for the Intelligence Community notified senior members of Congress that two of four classified emails discovered on the server Clinton maintained at her New York home contained material deemed to be in one of the highest security classifications - more sensitive than previously known.
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for your average joe, this is prison time

Rashmon · Aug 11, 2015

Invisible Fan · Aug 13, 2015

Sandy Berger walked. This is nothing for now.

Commodore · Aug 14, 2015

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>AP EXCLUSIVE: Officials say top secret emails on Clinton's server include drone talk: <a href="http://t.co/0L6QNDcCpT" title="http://apne.ws/1LakFZa">apne.ws/1LakFZa</a></p>— The Associated Press (@AP) <a href="https://twitter.com/AP/status/632137087442157569" data-datetime="2015-08-14T10:30:00+00:00">August 14, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Commodore · Aug 14, 2015

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>NEW FROM @<a href="https://twitter.com/washingtonpost">washingtonpost</a>: Petraeus prosecutor is now overseeing security investigation into Clinton emails. W/ @<a href="https://twitter.com/ktumulty">ktumulty</a> @<a href="https://twitter.com/PostRoz">PostRoz</a></p>— Carol Leonnig (@CarolLeonnig) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarolLeonnig/status/632296278416822272" data-datetime="2015-08-14T21:02:34+00:00">August 14, 2015</a></blockquote>
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larsv8 · Aug 14, 2015

Commodore said: ↑

What would Hillary have to do for you not to dismiss it?

I've worked in military/defense my entire career. If I set up a server at home to do work on (even unclassified), I would be fired immediately.

If classified info touched the server, I would be prosecuted.

Everyone with a clearance can be randomly polygraphed and asked if they have willfully mishandled classified information. Hillary should submit to the same.
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Try avoiding this.

Space Ghost · Aug 14, 2015

Commodore said: ↑

What would Hillary have to do for you not to dismiss it?

I've worked in military/defense my entire career. If I set up a server at home to do work on (even unclassified), I would be fired immediately.

If classified info touched the server, I would be prosecuted.

Everyone with a clearance can be randomly polygraphed and asked if they have willfully mishandled classified information. Hillary should submit to the same.
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i am sure her setup met TEMPEST specs. Comcast is a very secure network. Nothing to see here.

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