[CNN Article] Race hatred is a deep sickness in America

That's the problem with today's liberal PC mainstream media.

In the good ol days, we called them smurfs, but now those blue face are glorified as noble warriors oppressed by the evil white man.

 

And you haven't evacuated yet?

Just to add am frequently impressed by justtxyank, even when I don't agree with him.

 

Onto the main subject. It's a good piece and I agree with a lot of it. I've read Eric Liu's book about growing up as an Asian American and some of his experiences with dealing with racism as an Asian. Very often Asians have not spoken up regarding racism when it targets others and many Asians themselves believe in the model minority idea and are critical of other races in the US. That and the encroachment of Asian businesses into traditional black neighborhoods has caused a lot of tension between the two groups so it's good for someone like Eric Liu to come out and address this issue clearly and forcefully.

 

Really? I put him on ignore after some of his personal attacks on me. I thought he was just one of ATW's ghouls.

 

I don't know what that has to do with anything lol

What are you talking about? I'm confused.

 

I didn't say that. Yes racism clearly exists between and within many different social groups.

Sweet Lou said racism is apart of human nature. It isn't. He seemed to be saying that we are all racist and that there is nothing we can do about it. That's just not true.

 

I don't think racism itself is part of human nature but bigotry is and racism is one aspect of it. As social creatures we tend to distrust others who are not part of our group and in many ways our cultural attitudes haven't really developed beyond the tribal stage.

To hating someone because of the color of their skin is learned but even if someone didn't hate a group just because of their skin color they will likely hate or at least judge them for other reasons.

 

Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between European American and African American.

 

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About sums up my outlook on the whole race issue.

 

Yes, let's stop talking about it and the white supremacist terrorist organizations around the country will magically disappear.
The disadvantage the African American population has inherited from 300 years of slavery and 100 years of institutionalized racism will just disappear if we just stop taking about it.

The only White people who want to cease the discussion about the notion of there still being targeted racism towards to African-American population are racists.

 

Well said! I'm much the same way, and react the same way when it comes to the rights, or lack of rights, of the LGBT community. It's why I got so angry at the fool that got out of his car and knocked out a Gay American in, apparently, a fit of road rage. What really ticked me off? What the fellow said before he did it. I'm paraphrasing, but he called the poor guy a "****ing f*****." Some would say, "Oh, that's just something the guy said because it's a common expression to use to cuss someone out," and might not have really meant that the guy who said it was a bigot. I disagree. To me, that's trying way too hard to make up an excuse for the man. The fellow was an adult, certainly old enough to know better. In my opinion, saying that expression was a reflection of deep seated bigotry.

 

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You're a real *******. I hope you are proud of yourself. What are you, 15 or something like that? If not, you sure act like it.

 

Fair enough, you find me to be an *******, I find you to be whiny, mentally weak, and easily offended. Sounds like a wash to me.

 

Number 1, he doesn't speak for all Black people. #2 I try not to get my politics from a wealthy actor. Life is pretty much a fairy tale to him. He is not treated nor will he ever be treated like the average black person.

 

You should be happy. You got the reaction you wanted. As for "a wash," the only thing needing a wash is how you look at the world. How glad I am that I am not you. What's ironic is that I enjoy your takes on basketball. At least your twisted view of humanity doesn't carry over to the NBA.

 

Not the reaction I wanted at all actually, I was hoping that you'd realize that you were a bit over the top about that particular subject. It's not a nice word to say, but just because someone uses it out of anger it doesn't mean that they have some deep seeded bigotry as you suggest. Hell I've seen gay guys call straight guys that right before a fight.....was that an indication of "deep seeded bigotry" in that instance? I argue that particular slur is more commonly used to mean something other than making reference to homosexuality.

Either way, I think we can agree that political views and sports analysis are in no way related.

 

I'm saying that we have in our nature the tendency to label and judge others different from the group we identify with. We tend to apply negative attributes towards those outside that group.

We may not even been aware - it might not be conscious. It might be subtle - an uncomfortability. There's plenty of tests that show that the exact resume sent with a white sounding name vs. a black sound name get very different response rates.

I find it a lot in my work. I work in advertising as a strategist. At a conference I haven't even spoken but people just assume I work in IT - why? Because I am Indian! Other Indian men in the ad world have mentioned the same thing. Would any of these people say they are biased? Of course not, but it's there. In my case, it's very easy to dispel and overcome.

But I see it on subtle and slight ways in corporations all the time.

 

You missed the point. He means don't make the person's exterior features their identity.

Sure it's fine to take notice of someone's features, but don't concentrate on it. He feels putting someone's racial/cultural identity before national identity and personal identity is bad.

Further, he isn't trying to ignore the sins of the past, but he is saying you can't focus on them forever.

I dunno if I'm explaining it effectively, but I got his point. It wasn't as dismissive as you feel from my point of view.

 

Problem with that outlook is Morgan Freeman is a 1% that literal can be devoid of racism because of his status stature. He doesn't have to apply for a job as a new applicant nor live in a poverty stricken location or compete with other people for financial in life at this point. It's easy for somebody like that to come out with such an outrageous answer when it longer can effect him like ordinary people of color. Awful solution Morgan, thought you were smarter than that.