"Many GMs don't like Morey because they don't like the way he does business".

You're quoting random fans of other message boards who make a statement we don't know is true to begin with and asking what they mean by it on this message board? lol.

 

On the flip side I'm sure Parsons made the organization that drafted him because they believed in him and helped him grow feel all warm and fuzzy inside when he signed with their bitter rivals. I'm sure he was really looking out for the Rockets best interest when he took those sweet club photos with Mark Cuban.

Let's stop with the sentimentality. It's all a business. From both sides.

 

If fans said it, it must be true. . . .

 

Pretty much, a lot of fans of opposing teams HATE him.

Bulls and Knicks fans think he used some unfair tactic to get Asik and Lin from them or that he did it just to mess with their teams.

Laker fans are in awe that he has the nuts to go after players THEY should be signing

OKC fans think he stole under their nose

He's very proactive and usually wins trades so a lot of fans see him as that guy that screwed their team.

 

Who cares what fans of other teams say about our GM? If they liked him it probably would mean he sucks.

 

It doesn't really matter if other GM's don't like him, it's the agents you have to watch. And if the agents don't like him along with other GM's then sometimes Morey might get screwed.

I think some of our misfortune this off-season had to do with that...

 

I don't think that applies anymore after this offseason. Morey got worked but there is a lot of time between now and the playoffs.

 

He plays hard ball

 

The establishment does not like it when someone is confident and thinks outside the box. The NBA hierarchy had a way of doing things and didn't like it when he started thinking outside the box and evaluated basketball differently than what was the norm. It was viewed as a threat and challenge.

The Lowry deal (draft pick with specific protections), letting the market set restricted free agent values... No trade kickers, no player options and back loaded deals like that Asik and Lin got were all viewed as outside the box. Also, at times his mouth can get him in trouble. The whole "assets" faux scandal and now the " a You draft guys like Parsons" comments will get him in trouble.

Having said that, he has HUGE balls and is very good at his job. It is scary to think how good he would be with free reign in NY or LA. It also speaks well of his character to go and do interviews after what was a devastating off season. It also speaks well that he was strong enough to risk scorn and not match Parsons because he didn't think the team would win a title.

 

Nah, Anthony asked to visit Houston. Bosh was a Rocket until the Heat offered the 5th year. Ariza signed for a very reasonable deal. Also, their is no reason for Fegan to dislike Morey, he didn't match but didn't wait until 11 pm and actually let Parsons out early.

 

this noise is probably from a bunch of okc fans registering through all the team fan sites.

 

He was a RFA - it's his job to go out and secure a good deal.

Of course it's all business. But players are going to be wary of signing with a team that makes clear that the ability to ship them out is critically important. If they wanted to play in Minnesota, they would just sign there. Players are human and have egos and want to be wanted. Being rich doesn't make that disappear. The Rockets will still get free agents if they offer the most money because money matters, but if two equally interesting teams to a free agent are offering similar money, the Rockets are likely to be at a bit of a disadvantage.

 

They don't like a guy who adds liquidity to the market?

BS

 

Truth.

I'm happy the Rockets have so many haters in the general NBA fandom now.

I remember the Lowry-Brooks-Dragic years we were the lovable team that fought hard but with such bad luck. Other fans would say "Awww look at them try! They'll never do it though...but look at them give it their all!"

When I see Laker fans delight that Morey didn't get Bosh, or not want to do the Lin trade because it helped Morey get the space for Bosh, I at least knew we were relevant.

 

Most, if not all, teams in the NBA have an analytics department or at the least have consultants/someone doing analytics for them. It's not like we're still in the dark ages of analytics.

 

This.

What a r****ded thread created out of thin air.

 

If GMs don't like dealing with Morey, they do a horrible job of showing it. He's been arguably the most active GM in the league since coming on board with the Rockets.

 

Right. Similarly to how Parsons is a free agent and it's his job to secure the best deal, it's the Rockets' front office's job to go out and secure the best players on the best deals. That's the whole point.

Your second paragraph is invalid because the Rockets have had no problem signing free agents. The fact is that it is hard for any team to sign players period. Unless you're LA. We've gotten Dwight Howard when equally interesting teams were offering similar money. We weren't at a disadvantage then. In fact the times we have lost out on a free agent have all been due to another team offering way more money or a way better opportunity (in regards to ring chasers).

 

I don't think there'd be much if a discount even if Houston was some premier classy organization. It's just a matter of market size and the fact that it's hot as hell in Houston and not that great a night spot.

As much as I complain about Morey making it too mercenary, appealing to players for a specific discount is hard for any team outside of a super team or LA.

Then there's the thing about trading his undervalued assets when he gets whiff of a player three times better...

 

Absolutely.

That's not necessarily true. Parsons likely included the trade kicker at least in part so the Rockets couldn't trade him in 6 months, and Morey said that was a factor in them not matching - so it potentially had impact there. Beyond that, we have no idea what free agents they've offered money to, who rejected them, and why. We also have no idea what contracts were offered to the free agents they have signed, and if the Rockets offered more money than other teams or not.

Common sense tells you players generally don't like being traded somewhere outside of their control - they sign with a team for a reason and they like stability. So if you're more likely to get traded if you sign with Houston, of course it will have some kind of impact. How significant that is, of course, is unclear.