Depends on how much playing time he gets. Even then, while Martin is a great scorer, I don't think that by himself he is enough to carry our team to a significantly different Win/Loss outcome. I'd rather see his minutes cut to give Jeremy Lamb more play time, though.
Thats the million dollar questions. The answers are not clear right now but will become clearer as the season progresses. Saids this before In another thread , two types of teams will have interest in Martin 1) playoff contenders who feel they are a scoring wing away from a deep run. 2) teams looking to shed salary over future years in exchange for either draft considerations or a player with upside. We'll have to wait a while to see who those teams may be ....
It's a tension, trade him now you might not get as much value as you would letting him play and play well in his contract year. On the other hand you risk letting him play well (increasing his trade value) but possibly win more games reducing our draft position. There's an inverse relationship there with his trade value and our draft pick. As well he'd be taking time from lamb. There's also the risk he could get injured too in the season blowing his trade value too. I guess we could use him like tmac as a way for other teams to rent cap space so would you guys be okay taking on someone with another year of salary and let that eat some space for the 13-14 season?
The problem with Martin to Chicago is that he's in the last year of his contract. While the Bulls will be pushing for a playoff spot this year, they're hardly contenders without Rose. I don't see them giving up a 1st rounder for a rental in a season where they have no hope of winning a championship. I actually think Denver would be the better fit.
he is a veteran scorer and best shooter on the team AND the only 3pt threat we have. He stays and plays out the season and we let him expire. We get his 12+ mill cap space back.
having 20+ mill in cap to get better players is a fail? What do you propose, more fowards and 2nd round picks? We cant be a trash dump for every other team. We cant be the bobcats of the west
Possible 3 way with the Bobcats, and Grizzlies for more picks that have low protection later on. We trade Martin, Patterson, Morris, future 2nd rders Get- Tyrus Thomas, Diop (exp. contract), Portland's pick (Bobcats), Detroit's pick (Bobcats) Grizzlies trade- Gay Get- Martin (exp. contract), Morris, future 2nd ers Bobcats trade- Thomas, Diop, Detroit and Portland picks Get- Gay, Patterson,
You don't let Martin walk for nothing when you could at least get a first rounder for him, period. If Potland can get the 6 pick for Wallace in the last year of his deal, Houston can get something worth while for Martin. Letting his contract expire is a wasted opportunity, and out of the question.
I think what happens to KMart has a lot to do with how the Rockets play this season. I think DM honestly believes that the team has a legit chance at a play-off spot based on the starting unit and hopefully some good rookie play at the 4 spot. If the Rockets are improving and in the hunt for a play-off spot I think the Rockets will keep Martin on the team even past the trade deadline unless someone blows their socks off with an offer. What I think will actually happen is that I think the Rockets will play well and show signs of being a very good team but will struggle to get to 33 wins on the season. I think KMart will be dealt at the deadline for a future draft pick to a team like Atlanta who is trying to make a push and needs another scorer.
I say trade Martin, PatPat & a pick to Utah for Big Al (McHale has a relationship with him already). Sign Barbosa, Then go with what we have: Lin/Richardson/Machado Barbosa/Lamb/Fortsen Parsons/White/Morris Big Al/DMo/TJones Asik/JuJuan/Smith Would be a fun team to watch!
Who is the Richardson player you show behind Lin? I would have Barbosa backing up Lin and starting Lamb in your scenario and there is no chance at all that Fortson could be a back up 2 guard unless it was strictly as a match-up situation that would be rare for a 4'2" point guard.
With the things are going we probably end up trading him to Lakers for Duhon and Murphy (basketball reasons).
I think you guys are going overboard on how many picks we need to acquire. We need a good pick but we don't need A MILLION picks. Mchale already said the goal isn't to have a team full of rookies and thats what we will have if we keep acquiring all these picks. One more HIGH draft pick at most....
I think Gay is going to get salary dumped by Memphis depending on where there at when the deadline roles around. Gay has a player option for 20 mil in final year of his contract. They want no part of that long term. Martin would give them similar production at a much cheaper price.
