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Celtics emerge as serious suitor for Lee, Rockets open to sign&trade

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HMMMHMM, Jul 8, 2012.

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maybe we sign and trade him to chicago and chicago rescinds asiks cap hold early?

or something, i dunno

#221 vernonmaxwell86, Jul 19, 2012

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What about the flip side? Chicago?

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Pretty sure (for the same reasons others have mentioned regarding the timing) that Courtney would be signing a contract with the Houston Rockets.

Now, whether that is a contract to play for Houston or to be immediately traded to another agreed-upon team, that has yet to be determined.

Assuming that Lee IS, in fact, signing a contract with the Rockets (again, either a regular deal or a S&T deal), the reason for the timing is that the Rockets must first make sure they have the cap room available to sign Asik to his offer sheet. Once that is done, they can exceed the cap to sign(-and-trade) Lee to any amount. Of course, any S&T deal brings with it some Base Year Compensation issues (in which Lee will likely only count as 50% of his new salary as "outgoing salary" but will count 100% to his new team as "incoming salary", making trades a little more difficult).

Here's hoping the Rockets either keep Lee or get an extra first round pick for him in a S&T deal. Another one of my favorite players.
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Thanks Bima. So my understanding of the cap holds was correct. I've felt for the past week that Lee was going to remain a Rocket and that they were making moves to avoid losing his bird rights while they did everything else.

Based on Morey's comments about types of players you add and let go when you do or don't have a star, I think if he re-signs Lee there is no question he knows he is getting Dwight.

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BimaThug said: ↑

Pretty sure (for the same reasons others have mentioned regarding the timing) that Courtney would be signing a contract with the Houston Rockets.

Now, whether that is a contract to play for Houston or to be immediately traded to another agreed-upon team, that has yet to be determined.

Assuming that Lee IS, in fact, signing a contract with the Rockets (again, either a regular deal or a S&T deal), the reason for the timing is that the Rockets must first make sure they have the cap room available to sign Asik to his offer sheet. Once that is done, they can exceed the cap to sign(-and-trade) Lee to any amount. Of course, any S&T deal brings with it some Base Year Compensation issues (in which Lee will likely only count as 50% of his new salary as "outgoing salary" but will count 100% to his new team as "incoming salary", making trades a little more difficult).

Here's hoping the Rockets either keep Lee or get an extra first round pick for him in a S&T deal. Another one of my favorite players.
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Did these BYC stipulations not apply to the Marcus Camby trade?

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Just throwing this out there, but what are the odds that we have a trade worked out with Chicago involving Asik and Lee?

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Here are the dots as I have connected them.

CLee is signing with Houston once the offer sheet has been completed with Asik.

Morey already has a deal in place for Dwight and is 95% sure that the trade will go through.

CLee is getting nervous so Morey gave him a deadline when he will sign him.

Not a bad lineup if you ask me.

Lin/Douglas
Lee/Lamb
Parsons/White
Patterson/D-Mo
Dwight/Asik

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This technically doesn't mean it won't be us that signs him :grin:

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Bima - is Feigen correct that we will have $9 million in cap space, even after signing Lin and Asik?

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterocke...ttention-to-finding-big-man-to-pair-with-lin/

They also could take on some of the Magic’s burdensome contracts, with roughly $9 million of cap space available even if the Rockets add Asik to Lin, not including the room that could be opened by trading or releasing players with non-guaranteed contracts.

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TexAg713 said: ↑

Just throwing this out there, but what are the odds that we have a trade worked out with Chicago involving Asik and Lee?
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Doubtful. Asik has already agreed to terms, and it seems unlikely that Chicago matches. We wouldn't need to give Lee away for nothing.

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TexAg713 said: ↑

Just throwing this out there, but what are the odds that we have a trade worked out with Chicago involving Asik and Lee?
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Zero. If the Bulls match the offer sheet they can't trade him to us and even if they could it would suck because we'd get hit with the poison pill nature of the structure.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Celtics to acquire G Courtney Lee from Rockets in a sign and trade sending back F JaJuan Johnson, sources tell Y! Details being finalized.</p>— Marc J. Spears (@SpearsNBAYahoo) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo/status/226053124962533376" data-datetime="2012-07-19T20:37:19+00:00">July 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Celtics to acquire G Courtney Lee from Rockets in a sign and trade sending back F JaJuan Johnson, sources tell Y! Details being finalized.</p>— Marc J. Spears (@SpearsNBAYahoo) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo/status/226053124962533376" data-datetime="2012-07-19T20:37:19+00:00">July 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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Well...

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who the hell is JaJuan Johnson?

He better be a stud!

#234 Moonscope, Jul 19, 2012
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Any picks involved

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HMMMHMM said: ↑

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Hahaha...

I hope we are getting something more interesting than Johnson.

#236 justtxyank, Jul 19, 2012
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JaJuan any good? Promising?

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I'm not seeing what's to like about getting another PF that costs us $$ unless a pick is involved.

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http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/playerProfiles/profileDisplay.jsp?id=1148

6'10" Power Forward. At least we're getting taller. Drafted last year in 1st round. Next year is guaranteed, but last two years on contract are team options. More trade fodder?

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