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[CBS] Kobe not afraid of a lockout.

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Commodore, Feb 12, 2011.

  1. Nolocke

    Nolocke Member

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    If Kobe aint scared to rape someone he isn't gonna be scared of a lockout.
     
  2. Shroopy2

    Shroopy2 Contributing Member

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    Hockey has a hard cap, revenue sharing, and has posted RECORD revenue this year (not profit, just revenue)

    NFL has hard caps and revenue sharing. But some NFL owners want to END revenue sharing.

    Owners care more about the "sports socialism" of wanting to keep what they make rather than whats fair to everyone else. Its owners bottom line first, tv contracts 2nd. Other owners 3rd, players 4th, fans maybe fit somewhere in there. Professional sports being a BUSINESS, hard to say they should NOT think that way.

    Does Jerry Jones care that the Jacksonville Jaguars are running on fumes? Nope. Do NHL owners of prestigious teams like the Toronto Maple Leafs care about the BANKRUPT Phoenix Coyotes who the league bought and rescued? Doubt it. Do prestigious NBA teams really care about the Hornets who the league bought and rescued? Probably not. They probably thought those teams should not have expanded to begin with.

    I do wonder how hard the NBA owners will make their push.
     
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  3. Commodore

    Commodore Contributing Member

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    Sure but long contracts at a discount can be just as good as an overpriced long contract is bad.

    Like Morey says, fewer rules favor the prepared. He is in favor of just a hard cap.

    A long contract is a calculated risk that a GM and owner should be free to make.
     
  4. W22_STREAK

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  5. Octavianus

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    I'm against any Hard Cap, as the luxury tax provides support for so many teams.
    Also, you cannot force players to play for teams they don't like.

    Here's a list of the salary cap details for all teams in the NBA.
    If a hard cap would be set, it would have to be set at the highest team, as you couldn't make teams waive players etc.

    Miami is number 20 in Cap space, yet has a top team, which shows no matter what the cap is, teams will always find a way to get top talent.
    Star players would just take more off a pay cut to play with each other.


    1. Los Angeles Lakers
    $91,569,659
    2. Orlando Magic
    $89,139,596

    3. Dallas Mavericks

    $87,889,633
    4. Boston Celtics

    $83,790,759
    5. Denver Nuggets

    $83,020,059
    6. Utah Jazz

    $75,785,355
    7. Houston Rockets
    $74,581,719
    8. Atlanta Hawks
    $69,989,708
    9. Milwaukee Bucks
    $69,543,506
    10. Philadelphia 76ers
    $69,360,246
    11. San Antonio Spurs
    $69,051,987
    12. Portland Trail Blazers
    $68,450,685
    13. Toronto Raptors
    $67,698,088
    14. Memphis Grizzlies

    $67,733,258
    15. New Orleans Hornets
    $66,133,816
    16. Detroit Pistons
    $65,917,821
    17. Charlotte Bobcats

    $65,880,884
    18. Phoenix Suns
    $65,694,143
    19. Golden State Warriors
    $65,571,058
    20. Miami Heat
    $65,356,624
    21. Indiana Pacers
    $64,368,421
    22. Washington Wizards
    $60,066,811
    23. New Jersey Nets
    $58,589,080
    24. New York Knicks
    $58,102,438
    25. Oklahoma City Thunder
    $57,954,586
    26. Chicago Bulls
    $56,237,705
    27. Los Angeles Clippers

    $52,668,803
    28. Cleveland Cavaliers
    $51,572,807
    29. Minnesota Timberwolves
    $44,899,891
    30. Sacramento Kings
    $43,798,401
     
  6. shipwreck

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    we are merely weeks from crunch time in NFL negotiations, and both sides there are still engaged in the "rhetoric-laden-leveraging-parade-of-public-outcry" stage. the nba's "crisis" is in a stage of pre-infancy. talk like this will continue, in both accounts, until the final hours. i'm confident neither will have any damaging lockout.
     
  7. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    This is a really delayed response, but if anything is taken that literally, it isn't worth talking about, is it?

    Professional athletes make too much money. They already have more power than they need, and possibly than they deserve. That's been a strong opinion of mine for years.

    Whether they have the "right" to complain is irrelevant - anyone is entitled to whine.
     
  8. roslolian

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    This. No ****e, the dude is in the middle of his 2nd max contract, has endorsement deals every is sponsored by Nike. That's like asking if Bill Gates is afraid of the recession.

    Regarding the NBA, the biggest obstacle IMHO is the guaranteed contracts given to players. Bad GMs need some sort of safety valve to prevent them from making franchise killing mistakes like signing Rashard Lewis to the max. Contracts need to be structured similarly to the NFL wherein players will receive a signing bonus, and the rest of the contract can be voided if the player is underperforming.
     
  9. mrjuandiego1988

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    boo hoo :'( i get paid millions to play a game that i love! but still whine and b****!
     
  10. Bigmarky

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    make them play for free and hand out tickets like chinese take out menus that they leave on your door
     
  11. Sampson4Sleepy

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    the lakers would care less if they had to share revenue..they just signed 3 billion dollar deal with time warner that will give them a 100million annual boost..enough to pay the 110million player budget + luxury tax before a single ticket is sold..the reason the lakers are the best is not because they win on the court, its because while other teams are worried about trade deadlines and making the playoffs the lakers are running a business always finding new ways to bring in the money. thats why teams like the rox will never amount to shi* hard cap or not
     
  12. Sampson4Sleepy

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    Kobe would be more than happy to return to Italy, reunite with his best friend Sasha and play there to end his career..really wht does he have left to prove to the US anyway..he has reached the top of the NBA and is paid beyond belief..why not end his career where he would be happy and out of the media spotlight..i wouldnt be surprised if he is looking forward to the lockout
     
  13. Liberon

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    It's funny you say that but their money can't compare to the ownership money. People don't just pay people alot for the hell of it. In fact it's a minimum of say a 300% or more return for that of which they spent. Owners make multiple times more what they're costs are to an amount not reported officially anywhere. If they make that much don't you think the players that make up the league deserve a decent cut. Which is a joke because no current cut is even close to decent if we're talking percentage wise.
     

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