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1970 tape recording of Kent State shootings reveals sound of pistol shots

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 10, 2010.

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  1. pippendagimp

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    oh the irony.
     
    #21 pippendagimp, Oct 10, 2010
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  2. basso

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    i'm not sure there is one, and no, it doesn't change anything- those kids are still dead.

    but why did this guy have a gun? and why did he fire it?
     
    #22 basso, Oct 10, 2010
  3. bnb

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    Is the revelation that the guy had a gun new?

    Seems the new info is just that it may have been fired. And, if so, then the reports at the time were fudged.

    But I still think the 70 second gap pretty much negates any 'justification' or even mitigation to the acts of the National Guard, no? It was never beyond the realm of possibilities that someone had a gun in the ol' land of the free.

    Do you see anything here that changes your view of the events -- other then just filling in info?
     
    #23 bnb, Oct 10, 2010
  4. justtxyank

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    Well the "cover up" if there was one, was apparently intended to protect the FBI informant, and potentially by extension the FBI.
     
    #24 justtxyank, Oct 10, 2010
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes. If someone posts it who believes it's true, and is interested in discussing it, then it could be interesting. If someone posts it who doesn't care whether the post happens to be true, and has no intention of discussing it then it isn't really interesting. As soon as anyone wades into the discussion pool, basso gets out of the pool and leaves. Others come in and clean out the urine and feces he's left behind, and basso pretends it never happened.

    It really isn't interesting. If a person posts who is open to a discussion, then it could be interesting.

    I've stopped responding to any basso post. There is little challenge in debunking the crap he posts, and it serves no purpose anyway.
     
    #25 FranchiseBlade, Oct 10, 2010
  6. Deckard

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    That deserves an honest answer. I can give you one. I generally don't post in threads started by members I have on ignore. Usually when I do, I end up regretting it.
     
    #26 Deckard, Oct 11, 2010
  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Because on some morbid level, we are all just trying to figure out if someone can actually think like basso or is it just an act.
     
    #27 Sweet Lou 4 2, Oct 11, 2010
  8. basso

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    and yet, neither of you two (NYer or DECKArd) made any attempt to discuss the OP in good faith.

    most curious.
     
    #28 basso, Oct 12, 2010
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    What's there to discuss? Next thing you will post something on the JFK assassination.

    Why don't you start ACTING in good faith and maybe people will REACT back likewise.
     
    #29 Sweet Lou 4 2, Oct 12, 2010
  10. basso

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    redundancy is redundant.
     
    #30 basso, Oct 12, 2010
  11. Rashmon

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    Okay, I'll play.

    If you give credence to the story, it seems the implication is that the murder of innocent students, by our own government, was precipitated by an individual acting as a government agent.

    Seems to me, if you accept this new "evidence" it makes this tragedy even more heinous.
     
    #31 Rashmon, Oct 12, 2010
  12. basso

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    i'm not disagreeing.

    it's unclear that the guard knew who had fired, only that they felt they were being fired on. they also said they were being hit with rocks. IIRC, investigators hired professional baseball players to try to throw rocks from where the students were to where the guard stood, and none could.

    it seems to me someone panicked, and opened fire, or gave the order to, with no clear direction. it may be a conspiracy, but it's most likely just what it's always been- a national tragedy.
     
    #32 basso, Oct 12, 2010
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