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[Fanhouse] Memo to Rockets: Patience Is a Virtue

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ASidd_1990, Apr 5, 2010.

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As usual, sports writer knows much less than fans for a specific team. They only read obvious numbers and make BS out of it.

#21 choujie, Apr 5, 2010

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Matt Barnes??? over martin?? this guy is a tard

#22 DubNaSty, Apr 5, 2010
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Wow, originally I just saw "Memo to the Rockets" and about died of shock. I WOULD need a lot of patience then.

#23 napalm06, Apr 5, 2010
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What a terribly reasoned article. I was just waiting for him to say that Adelman was making a "colossal mistake" by not starting David Andersen.

#24 reckonerone42, Apr 5, 2010
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He doesn't even address the draft picks that The Rox acquired. Seriously, how can he say the trade was a fail if he doesn't mention the most valuable assets included in the trade?

Of course we are still unsure as to the draft picks' value until we see NY fall over in the offseason.

#25 dakeem1, Apr 5, 2010
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I spent entirely too long crafting this dismantling of his article. Enjoy.

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Wow. Do you actually get paid to write this tripe? Allow me to address the laundry list of gratuitous errors, exaggerations, and outright falsehoods that plague your obviously unresearched article.

1) The Rockets did not trade Ron Artest. He left in free agency, and Houston picked up Trevor Ariza as a free agent.

2) You clearly have zero knowledge of Houston's salary cap situation, and likely next to nothing of the league's CBA. What, you think just because McGrady's $23 million contract expires that Houston suddenly has $23 million in cap space? Houston's situation before the trade would have allowed them somewhere in the neighborhood of $13 million in cap space, and that's assuming that they don't resign restricted free agents Luis Scola and Kyle Lowry. Those two are surefire signings unless they're offered something entirely unreasonable by a desperate team. So, after resigning Scola and Lowry (assume that's it's on the low end of about $10 million/yr for the two combined) Houston would be looking at a whopping $3-$4 million of cap space. I don't think any of those big names you're talking about are taking a pay cut of that magnitude just to play next to Yao.

3) Kevin Martin, for all your concern over his 43% shooting, is still one of the most efficient offensive players in league. His true shooting percentage sits at 58% on the year, and his career rate 59.8% is currently 4th among active players, astounding for a shooting guard. Injuries are a concern, yes, but a consistent scorer at the 2 spot has been a glaring deficiency for the team for the last two seasons.

4) The Rockets were never getting David Lee, and imagining a frontcourt comprised of two power forwards and a center is idiotic at best. You'd start Luis Scola at small forward instead of Ariza or Battier? Hilarious.

5) Matt Barnes a better fit than Kevin Martin? Are you off your meds? Barnes is a mediocre offensive player at best. The "need" for his defensive capabilities is but a myth propagated by the idea that the Rockets' defense has fallen off for any other reason than missing a 7'6" basket protector.

6) Saying that if Houston couldn't win with McGrady in his prime makes as much sense as saying the Lakers couldn't win with Kobe in his prime. After Shaq left, L.A. floundered for so many seasons for one simple reason: Kobe had an atrocious supporting cast. So it was for the Rockets as well. I mean, against the Mavericks in '05, the team's third option was Jim Jackson. In '07 and '08, it was Rafer Alston. And the rosters went downhill from there. Minus McGrady and with competent role players like Scola, Landry, Artest and Brooks, this team had the talent to move forward in the playoffs. Add Yao Ming back into the picture against the Lakers last year, we very well may have had an upset.

7) Just because you saw some highlight-reel clips of Carl Landry swatting shots into the third row and saving the Rockets win in Utah in the '08 playoffs doesn't mean he was a good defensive player. It's a stretch to even say he was an adequate defensive player. He has the capability, but he's certainly nowhere near "good."

I could think of at least 30 amateurs off the top of my head that could have put together a more intelligent, accurate article than this slop you've vomited up. Try being a real journalist.
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#26 gwatson86, Apr 5, 2010
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gwatson86 said:

I spent entirely too long crafting this dismantling of his article. Enjoy.
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I read that there. Nice job.

That's just about the worst article I've ever read on the Rockets, just from the standpoint of the guy not having a clue about basic facts.

#27 durvasa, Apr 5, 2010

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durvasa said:

I read that there. Nice job.

That's just about the worst article I've ever read on the Rockets, just from the standpoint of the guy not having a clue about basic facts.
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Sure didn't take the guy long to delete it though. I reposted it anyway.

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#28 gwatson86, Apr 5, 2010
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Sure didn't take the guy long to delete it though. I reposted it anyway.

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Wow ... your post isn't there any more!

That's completely uncalled for. This guy is basically spreading lies about the team and he's not even allowing the facts to come out in the comments section.

#29 durvasa, Apr 5, 2010
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gwatson86 said:

I spent entirely too long crafting this dismantling of his article. Enjoy.
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Well said, except against Mavs, Jimmy the ball stopper Jackson was traded away for David Wesley.

That Jordan guy is a total loser for deleting your post.

#30 choujie, Apr 5, 2010
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I think this guy mixed up Landry and Hayes and thought they were a single player.

#31 vcchlw, Apr 5, 2010
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Patience my ass. I'm gonna kill something.

#32 pbthunder, Apr 5, 2010
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I see his perspective but we still have a shot at the 2011 market.

I would have rather not taken on Martin because he reminds me of a younger, second rate T-mac. But I can see what the Rockets were thinking. I think it's the small forward position that needed the most improvement, not SG per se.

In any case, it's very hard to judge this team...with the playoffs out of reach these games are meaningless.

As for the T-mac Yao era, it really is kinda sad the way it ended. They were such talented players who just were not surrounded by the right kind of guys.

It really is reminiscent of Shaq & Penny.

#33 Sweet Lou 4 2, Apr 5, 2010

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Sweet Lou 4 2 said:

I see his perspective but we still have a shot at the 2011 market.

I would have rather not taken on Martin because he reminds me of a younger, second rate T-mac. But I can see what the Rockets were thinking. I think it's the small forward position that needed the most improvement, not SG per se.

In any case, it's very hard to judge this team...with the playoffs out of reach these games are meaningless.

As for the T-mac Yao era, it really is kinda sad the way it ended. They were such talented players who just were not surrounded by the right kind of guys.

It really is reminiscent of Shaq & Penny.
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But Shaq and Penny actually made it to the Finals

#34 ASidd_1990, Apr 5, 2010
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This guy just trolled us all.

#35 SuperBeeKay, Apr 5, 2010
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SuperBeeKay said:

This guy just trolled us all.
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Who me? Don't get mad at the messenger, get mad at the person who actually wrote the POS article.

#36 ASidd_1990, Apr 6, 2010
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My reaction to that article...

#37 Xsatyr, Apr 6, 2010
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ASidd_1990 said:

Who me? Don't get mad at the messenger, get mad at the person who actually wrote the POS article.
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Yeah, I'm obviously mad at you for copying and pasting this article. Why would you ever think that I would be mad at the writer, it was an awesome article. GTFO Troll

#38 SuperBeeKay, Apr 6, 2010

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durvasa said:

Wow ... your post isn't there any more!

That's completely uncalled for. This guy is basically spreading lies about the team and he's not even allowing the facts to come out in the comments section.
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I reposted it again. I implore all clutchfans to jump on board with this new "project." lol

#39 AstroRocket, Apr 6, 2010
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"Patience is a virtue"--sure enough, we need patience after reading that article by that ignorant writer.

gwatson86, great response!!!

#40 RoxBeliever, Apr 6, 2010

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