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CHRON - Artest Flagrant 2 reduced to Flagrant 1

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tonyrox, May 9, 2009.

  1. saleem

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    I don't think Ron went after the ball but it certainly wasn't a flagrant 2. If he had gone after the ball I would judged it as a normal foul.
    I might be incorrect but that's the way that I see it.
     
  2. Super Von

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    They way I saw it I think there was no doubt he was going to after the ball.

    More so than Rafer, Fisher, Rondo, Kobe, Vujacic.
     
  3. SuperMarioBro

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    No, it was a regular foul, but whatever.
     
  4. msb212

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    Should have been a personal foult, but given the way everything else is being called, flagrant 1 is consistent.

    As to refs giving the lakers favorable treatment, please. At half time, there were more than twice as many fouls called against the lakers, and 3 times as many free throw attempts by the rockets. It only caught up with the intentional fouling at the end.

    Artest is a nutjob, and given his past, he needs to keep himself in check. that's the penalty you pay for beating on fans. He should know better.
     
  5. tofu--

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    are you SERIOUS lol
     
  6. ItsMyFault

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    Still made the wrong call... a REGULAR foul should have been assessed. I'm not being picky, but that was just stupidity when they decided to call a flagrant 2. It wasn't even a flagrant foul when 3 different people had hit Pau Gasol...
     
  7. Gimmmethemike

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    They had to call it flagrant 1 because if not the league would be looking dumb if they just call it a personal foul and a slap in the face on the refs for looking dumb.
     
  8. durvasa

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    If the contact is considered excessive and potentially dangerous, the league will hand out a flagrant. It's no so much about malicious intent. It might be borderline in this case, but I think flagrant-1 makes sense.
     
  9. goodbug

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    It's automatically flagrant when the head is hit

     
  10. Super Von

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    Some of the time....
     
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    Not if you wear gold or green.
     
  12. ibm

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    gasol's head was NOT hit.
     
  13. ibm

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    how's that foul "excessive" and "potentially dangerous", in any way?
     
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    which is more than I can say for the actual refs, especially Crawford and the other bad rep refs.
     
  15. durvasa

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    It looked excessive to me. Is there a video of it anywhere?
     
  16. RHostetler82

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    Kudos to David Stern for reducing a regular foul to a flagrant 1. Thanks :rolleyes:
     
  17. supdudes

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    ...and that reddish puke-looking color. Hey...just saying :cool:
     
  18. BimaThug

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    I'll live with the league calling it a Flagrant-1, even though it was nothing more than a good, hard playoff foul.

    What I want to know is, why wasn't Sasha Vujacic's foul on Von Wafer not upgraded to at least a Flagrant-1? That foul was much harder and more dangerous than Ron's foul on Gasol.
     
  19. WhoMikeJames

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    Not even a flagrant foul. I hate this league.
     
  20. durvasa

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    That contact was mostly created by Wafer. It could have been a flagrant, but it also could have been an offensive foul. By ruling it a regular foul, I think the refs sort of split the difference.
     

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