OK, this week's BCS standings are close, and it looks like Miami finally jumps Oklahoma. The standings probably will be: 1. Nebraska 2. Miami 3. Oklahoma 4. Tennessee 5. Texas 6. Oregon For Texas fans, Michigan & Stanford are out of our way, but Tennessee makes the weekly jump ahead of us, and Oregon & Florida are lurking behind with real shots of jumping ahead soon. Hopefully, Florida can eliminate Tennessee and Florida State can eliminate Florida (why the hell is a 2-blowout-loss FSU ranked #10 ahead of all sorts of 1-loss teams??!). I don't know who Oregon plays, but all the Pac10 schools might wipe each other out (UW & WSU are still in the mix too). That leaves Nebraska, Miami, and Oklahoma to overtake -- playing 2-6 Kansas next week doesn't help either. Best case scenario is for OU to lose to A&M or Tech and Texas make the Big 12 Championship game. The most fun scenario, though (in my opinion), would be for Miami to get upset by Syracase, Washington, or VTech. Nebraska gets blown out by OU in the Big 12 (or loses to KState or Colorado and then loses to OU). That could create a Texas vs. OU rematch in the Rose Bowl.
So essentially we are destined to be number five for the rest of eternity. As long as someone can get OU or Neb behind us to get us in a BCS bowl I'll be happy. Of course having all the chips fall the right way and getting us to Pasadena would just be awesome but I still don't see it happening.
Shanna: Two things. 1. I think FSU probably deserves its ranking. That North Carolina loss no longer looks hideous... and who can fault anyone for losing to Miami? Lately, FSU has played well against some good teams. IMO, rankings should be based on how good you REALLY think a team is, rather than strict overall season performance. 2. You didn't meantion BC as a candidate to upset Miami! We're as good as Syracuse, imo. We've got a legit Heisman contender (this year he might get an invite, but next year will be a serious threat to win it all) in William Green, a decent-to-goo-QB and some good skills position players. Plus, we've got Miami at home. I don't think we WILL win... but I think we could. And I think we're better than Syracuse. yes, they've beat VT... but they got really lucky in doing so, and when we played them, all the breaks went against us, AND we played them better than even after an atrocious first 9 minutes or so. We've also beat Syracuse the last two seasons, and we're better than last year .
Haven -- On #1, I agree that they look pretty good. But I think Washington State and Illinois, with only 1 loss each, have to be ranked higher. WSU, in particular, has been dominant with a 7pt loss only to a 1-loss Oregon. FSU has been blown out by a now 5-4 North Carolina and #1 Miami. I didn't realize so many one-loss teams were gone, so I guess I don't have too big a problem with it. On #2, sorry about that. I didn't know Miami still played BC. I was just thinking of the 3 ranked teams that they have. If BC upsets them, all the better! I'll definitely be rooting for them.
shanna: I just checked the site that you had brought up before, and that site along with Brad Edwards of ESPN have the same top 6. Now, I'm no computer, but here's my BCS: 1) Nebraska 2) Miami 3) Oklahoma 4) Texas 5) Washington 6) Florida 7) Oregon 8) Tennessee 9) Washington State 10) BYU It is laughable to have Tennessee ranked as high as they are. Tennessee lost at home to an unranked (at the time) Georgia team. Tennessee won unimpressively against a mediocre Notre Dame team and although they have wins over Syracuse and South Carolina, they have shown me nothing. Even the local writers for the Tennessean admits that Tennessee is probably overrated. Florida is also a much better team than what the BCS gives them. Also, watch out for Washington. If they can beat Miami and Washington State and go 10-1, then they can very well be in the Rose Bowl.
I just found out today that there is a rule prohibiting more than 2 teams from the same conference from playing in BCS bowls. so now, UT not only needs help to get to the Rose Bowl but any BCS bowl. that sucks. also, it seems to me that the BCS surprisingly cares less about who you lose to and when than it does about who you beat. in other words, it's no disgrace [in the BCS' eyes] that Tennessee got beat by an unranked Georgia. rather, the BCS seems to focus more on the consistently difficult SEC wins Tennessee is getting. this would also explain Miami's difficulties. it's almost like the BCS formula isn't really interested in whether Miami is undefeated. the BCS wants to see WHO they beat. on that count, all of us 'Horn faithfuls who were talking about how the schedule was perfect for a national championship run back in the summer may have been way off the mark. your schedule may be better suited for a title run when it has quality opponents for you to beat, as opposed to sorry teams for you to not lose to. I think Washington will beat Miami [sorry, Manny]. and I will be the first to predict a Tech upset over ou [unless someone else already predicted it]. however, Texas will get jobbed [sort of] because the BCS will reward either Oregon or Washington or Florida or some other team with 1-loss with higher quality wins than Texas with a trip to the Rose Bowl. it really hurt Texas for North Carolina to lose to Georgia Tech last thursday. it would really help Texas out a lot [understatement] for Tech and atm to both beat ou, assuming Texas would go on to beat atm. even then, I think Texas would still need the quality win over Nebraska in the Big 12 title game to secure a spot in the Rose Bowl. I don't think there's any way possible for Texas to make the Rose Bowl without getting into the Big 12 title game. I just don't think their schedule will be tough enough to allow for it.
<B>I just checked the site that you had brought up before, and that site along with Brad Edwards of ESPN have the same top 6. </B> On a sidenote for everyone here -- I get all my info on the current rankings from the CollegeBCS.com website. I'm not that smart to come up with it myself. <B>It is laughable to have Tennessee ranked as high as they are. Tennessee lost at home to an unranked (at the time) Georgia team. Tennessee won unimpressively against a mediocre Notre Dame team and although they have wins over Syracuse and South Carolina, they have shown me nothing. Even the local writers for the Tennessean admits that Tennessee is probably overrated. Florida is also a much better team than what the BCS gives them. Also, watch out for Washington. If they can beat Miami and Washington State and go 10-1, then they can very well be in the Rose Bowl.</B> I agree with all of this. I have no doubt that Tennessee will get destroyed by Florida -- I have no clue how they keep winning. Washington kind of gets forgotten because they were the first to lose in the Pac10, but they've gotten right back in there. That Miami/UW game should be good. <B>also, it seems to me that the BCS surprisingly cares less about who you lose to and when than it does about who you beat. </B> This is an interesting observation. Strangely, to help Miami, the BCS added the little "bonus point" system to reward people for beating good teams. It seems like it would have the opposite effect -- more often than not, this will help the power-conference schools like Nebraska and OU rather than Miami. I think both ways have a good argument. On one hand, it's not Miami's fault they have a weaker schedule -- they can only control 4 of their games, and they did schedule some powerhouses this year (Washington, FSU, Penn State). On the other hand, a team that beats a couple of great teams but has an upset loss has a good argument too. It's a messy situation that only a playoff can resolve. Miami needs to play top teams in non-conference to compete. At the same time, no top team in a power conference is going to want to make their schedule any more difficult than it already is. That's why we need a freaking playoff system. <B>I think Washington will beat Miami [sorry, Manny]. and I will be the first to predict a Tech upset over ou [unless someone else already predicted it]. </B> I agree that Tech has a good chance. It would also help if A&M can beat up Nate Hybl. <B>however, Texas will get jobbed [sort of] because the BCS will reward either Oregon or Washington or Florida or some other team with 1-loss with higher quality wins than Texas with a trip to the Rose Bowl. </B> Yeah, I think this is the most likely scenario. We need all the other one-loss teams to keep knocking each other off. On the other hand, outside of the Rose Bowl, I bet the Sugar/Fiesta/Orange bowl would pick Texas before any of the other one-loss teams (except maybe Florida) so we're in pretty good shape there. The biggest concern is OU beating Nebraska in the Big12 championship. If that happens, Nebraska might be picked over Texas as a wildcard BCS team. If Nebraska & Miami end up in the Rose Bowl, I just hope we get a Texas/Florida match-up so Texas has a chance to end the season at #2.
There's a rule in the BCS that states that no conference can have more than 3 teams in a bcs game. Therefore, unless NU or the land thieves lose, we're headed to the cotton or holiday again. The Sugar would love to have us, but it just isn't feasible. Maybe there's a loophole I don't know of though.
<B>There's a rule in the BCS that states that no conference can have more than 3 teams in a bcs game. </B> I actually think this is a good rule. There are 8 total spots in the BCS, and 6 are guaranteed to conference champions (ACC, Big10, Big12, BigEast, Pac10, SEC). That only leaves two spots, and I think it would be unfair to give both of those spots to schools in one conference.
A loss to an unranked team doesn't hurt as much as a loss to a highly ranked team. You loss...you drop a couple spotsand get a point added. But you loss to a good scholl, you drop the same distance, get a point added and a heated rival fro BCS points gets a reduction. I am in favor of the quality win rule, but the points from the quality win should come from the lose points of the other team
this is bull **** look they did the same crap with michigan last week and justice was served by msu on saturday, tennessee has no business being ranked ahead of us. Like michigan, their poetic justice will come on saturday as they will lose once again. The BCS IS A FRICKIN JOKE. WE HAVE LOST TO THE NUMBER 3 TEAM IN THE COUNTRY BY 11 POINTS(really 4, and WE COULDVE EASILY WON) AND GET NO RESPECT. Ive been in favor of a playoff for a long time for obvious reasons but this is crap. No team behind another team should move up unless the team in front loses a game imho, thus michigan and tennessee have both wrongfully been placed ahead of us two weeks in a row. I AM REALLY SICK AND TIRED OF THE BCS. IT DOESN'T WORK, THEYVE JUST BEEN EXTREMELY FORTUNATE. Ill tell you one thing we should be 4th right now, but weve been robbed twice and if i see it again, anybody up for finding roy kramers office and giving him an *** whooping hell never forget, since this so called great system has as many flaws as hitler made in ww2.
<B>A loss to an unranked team doesn't hurt as much as a loss to a highly ranked team. You loss...you drop a couple spotsand get a point added. But you loss to a good scholl, you drop the same distance, get a point added and a heated rival fro BCS points gets a reduction.</B> JoeJoe -- this is the case sometimes, but losing to a good team helps at other times. For example, OU losing to Nebraska only dropped it one spot. Had they lost to Baylor, they wouldn't still be ranked #3 in the country and would have fallen further in the BCS. I think a lot of it depends on the type of loss, victory margin, etc. <b>No team behind another team should move up unless the team in front loses a game imho</b> Do you think a team's preseason ranking should mean that much? If Texas won this weekend 100-0 while Florida beat Vanderbilt 21-20, you don't think Texas should have passed Florida? <B>Ill tell you one thing we should be 4th right now, but weve been robbed twice and if i see it again</B> When have we been robbed? BCS rankings are irrelevent until the end of the season. They themselves admit that, because teams haven't played their full schedules yet.
I`ll be the first to admit I do not fully comprehend the BCS rules but the following statement was taken from an ESPN article, could someone please explain how Nebraska could have a 1.3 deduction for BEATING Oklahome who was ranked number 1 at the time "Nebraska's 2.62-point breakdown was: 2 points for poll average, 1 point for computer average, 0.92 for strength of schedule, 0 for won-loss record and a 1.3-bonus point deduction for beating Oklahoma on Oct. 27."
shanna, my belief is if team A and team B both have one loss and team A is ranked in front in the bcs ratings the week before if both win their should be no switch. Thats the "robbed" idea im referring to last week-michigan, this week tennessee, it isnt completely sorted out again but its a very disturbing and annoying trend
I think the most frustrating thing of all is that, until dec. 9, every single one of these BCS ratings that is released on monday afternoons is COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS. they don't even hold as much meaning as the coaches' and ap polls. the strength of schedule matters so much and vacillates so much from week to week. even if UT was ranked #1 this week in the BCS, it wouldn't mean a thing. 16 teams, 15 games, 8 bowls [cotton, rose, fiesta, orange, sugar, citrus, gator, peach], 1 month [weekend before X-mas thru weekend after New Year's] 1 Undisputed National Champion can you imagine how sweet this would be? a boy can dream. . .
